Housing Frustrations

[Jojoya]

So, to put it bluntly, last time we had new wards all the houses, and I mean ALL the houses were gone in less than 10 minutes. My FC had worked up the money for a Large and we were gonna buy one as soon as new plots came out but because we didn't have the best internet and the grace of God himself we got nothing. Is this an okay system? To encourage so much extreme competition that people harm themselves over? People have lost sleep for the purchase timers as well. Frankly I'm sick of seeing this fester in the community and am extremely disappointed to hear that Ishgard will be similar if not the same. Is this just how the game is going to play? If you want a little place to your community to hang with friends you have to forego sleep, food, drink, and bathroom to have an ideal chance for? Please give us instanced housing, or revise the system in such a way that does not so severely limit housing availability. And no, I do not take apartments as an acceptable solution because they are tiny ass little rooms that cost 300k a piece, not a place for friends to hang out and interact. Am I the only one who feels this angrily about housing at the moment? Do Yoshida and co. not care enough/don't have the ability to resolve this?

I don't feel angry.

I am very disappointed that SE refuses to learn from the past and continues to make the same mistakes by sticking to a ward system that doesn't meet the needs of the player base..

Hopefully when Ishgard opens a year from now. SE will implement the personal purchase moratorium so FCs will be able to get a house without difficulty. In the meantime, keep an eye out for housing becoming available through demolition. Hopefully your FC will be able to get one sooner instead of later.

And you're very wrong if you think an apartment can't be a place for friends to hang out and interact. They absolutely can. We had a sizeable chunk of our FC sitting together and chatting in the FC room of one of my alts while we were watching the Announcement Showcase Friday night and those are the exact same size as apartments. It just takes a bit of creativity to make them into a place where people want to hang out.

Yes it is just how it's going to play.
Their solution to the problem seems to be to throw space at it until it's enough. And considering Ishgard Housing is still about a year out... I don't think it's fair to expect instanced housing anytime soon.

Doesn't seem like they have the ability to resolve this.
If they could have given us instances housing, I imagine they would have instead of giving us new wards and Ishgard Housing.

They've got the ability to resolve it. The foundation is already part of the housing system in all the house interiors, FC rooms and apartments that already are instanced.

What's confusing is why they continue to refuse to expand on it.

[ItMe]

They've got the ability to resolve it. The foundation is already part of the housing system in all the house interiors, FC rooms and apartments that already are instanced.

What's confusing is why they continue to refuse to expand on it.

Do they have the ability to resolve it?
They have the ability to make new instances housing in the form of apartments, but from what I understand those barely work on the back end.

[Greyhawk]

Do they have the ability to resolve it?
They have the ability to make new instances housing in the form of apartments, but from what I understand those barely work on the back end.

Sure they do. The process might make a few players mad at a restructure of the current system, but in the end we will get rid of all these same posts about how bad housing is to get (and throwing in someone's health concerns to boot).

Even if they could wipe out the entire housing system and start over, they could make the same structure with some development modifications, utilize both existing and new servers they just got a few months ago and turn it instanced.

Give back the players who have houses, the small, medium or large ones they originally purchased to match what is in the instance. If they can't have an outside area developed because of instancing (normally you go into the house like in FFXI), then make a sunroom or something within the instanced house that would accommodate for gardening and social "outside" type of areas.

Expand the housing storage to accommodate the furnishings even temporarily, so people aren't struggling to move things out of storage into retainers for the move.

At worst, you have to redecorate (who would hate that? I've redecorated three times in the past few months, and change the outdoor area along with the seasons). We may not have an exterior building look, but that wouldn't bother a lot, if any, people.

In summary (TL: DR): Take the current apartment type approach and accommodate the living quarters to coincide with small, medium and large houses, then add a room to 'settle' for an outdoor need, such as gardening. Remove existing housing after its implemented which I am betting would take off a lot of stress on the current infrastructure.

[Jojoya]

Do they have the ability to resolve it?
They have the ability to make new instances housing in the form of apartments, but from what I understand those barely work on the back end.

Then we wouldn't have housing at all.

Again, even our house interiors are instanced.

Have you never noticed that when you go into your house, you get the "You have left the sanctuary." and "You have entered a sanctuary." but when you leave your house to be back into the ward you get both those messages PLUS a message listing the housing district name and ward number. Your character has been moved from the ward server to the housing instance server and then back to the ward server.

Never been curious why the weather inside your house is always listed as Fair even though it was Fog in the ward when you went into your house and Rain when you left it 10 minutes later?

Interiors are already an instanced system. What's not working on the backend is trying to add weather conditions to the instance server. Considering most players aren't actually interested in gardening and just want a bigger space to decorate, I don't think that's really an issue.

Weren't there actually houses, like, available for a week or so? Not *large* but....like, you can't be picky when there's already a slim amount of choices to be had.

There's homes *available*, just check regularly and be prepared to fight for it like everyone else.

That small surge of houses was due to hitting the 45 day mark after demolition resumed. We're not going to see a similar surge short of demolition again being suspended for several months (taking out the chance for any houses to become available short of voluntary relinquishing during that period) then being resumed.

Having 6-8 houses a week per world become available when there are hundreds of players actively looking doesn't help those hundreds that don't get lucky and are still without a house.

[Big_Bap]

That small surge of houses was due to hitting the 45 day mark after demolition resumed.

Small... what kind of world do you live in?