Demystifying ultimate and savage

[Bright-Flower]

It's fair to be disappointed at its delay. And maybe they should have announced its delay sooner to give people more of a heads up.

But honestly, it makes sense to be fairly early on the chopping block.

There's no real story tied to ultimates. Where as if you cancelled the end of Bozja or the last Nier raid etc that would affect things on the story level.

They're separate 'bonus' content on top of savage and not as clearly established a part of the release schedule.

Sure maybe more people do it than the '1%' exaggeration, but it's still comparatively few compared to more accessible content.

It's not really a shock to me at all that if something had to give, Ultimate would be high on the list. That doesn't mean it doesn't suck for people looking forward to it, but it's understandable.

[AC9Breaker]

Aka stop pulling fake numbers out of nowhere. I'm sick and tired of people saying "less than 1% of the playerbase does ultimate" and that means its somehow "fine" that they moved ultimate into the next expansion. A lot more people than you think do ultimates and even more do savage, so lets look at the numbers so you stop spouting misinformation (which by the way does not matter. if someone is part of that "1%" who gets their entire reason for staying subbed delayed by more than a year, then yes, we have every right to be disappointed. i dont know why this "personally im fine so its fine" mentality is so widespread)

If you check in lalachievements for title and achievment rarities, youll see that the titles The Legend, the Perfect Legend, and the Ultimate Legend are owned by 6.8%, 8.6% and 8.9% of all players in their database. There of course is an overlap, but theres also the case of players who dont have more than 1 ultimate cleared; so the numbers for "players that have cleared ultimate at all" could range from as few as 8.9% to as much as 22.3%.

As for savage, 11.6% of players in lalachievement's database have cleared edens promise savage at least once, and 24.8% cleared edens verse savage at least once. Note that this ONLY counts the last fight of the tier; meaning that people who only do the first three fights are not counted in these numbers. The real number of people who do savage is in fact way higher. How much higher? Well, just to get a rough idea, if we go by the number of parses on FFlogs, Oracle of Darkness is only 11% of their parses* this tier.

And before you say "the game has so much more to do than raidsss " We know. A lot of us already did all that stuff, or we simply dont enjoy it. I personally dont like doing fates or syrcus tower endlessly to get a relic weapon, and doing maps bores me, so i absolutely would not keep my sub running for 8 months until next expansion doing that.

Sounds tough. I'm sorry I guess.