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  1. #81
    Player
    Exodus-E's Avatar
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    Apr 2014
    Location
    Gridania
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    506
    Character
    Swygnebb Ahldhyltsyn
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPete View Post
    Sorry but everyone talking about “For lore reasons” that all went out the window when they trashed astrologian’s cards. They had lore to them and SE didn’t care about that. So summoner lore means nothing either. Sorry to say.
    What are you talking about? They didn't "trash" their cards at all.
    They were just "reworked" so they all grant a damage buff (+ seals depending on the card).

    Their lore explanation/significance is still intact, so yes: they do mean something still.
    Just like with Summoner.
    (2)
    Forever waiting on *new* Egis/summons (e.g. Ramuh-Egi).

  2. #82
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    Enkidoh's Avatar
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    Dec 2012
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    Ala Mhigo
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    8,334
    Character
    Enkidoh Roux
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by OvernightSiren View Post
    Most Summoners in past FF games don't operate like pets, you just summon a creature and it does a short animation.
    Unfortunately summons in the FF series haven't functioned like that since FFIX - FFX started the 'summons are pets that stay on screen' thing and SE have made them so ever since. Even FFVII Remake changed them to pets (despite even Compilation titles having them as a spell that does it's thing in a cutscene and then disappears). FFXI particularly had SMN as a pet Job, and so it's this in particular that has created a kind of expectation of FFXIV players how SMN should function, despite Yoshi's own dislike of pet Jobs in general.

    SMN here in FFXIV also was always going to be hamstrung by FFXIV's very lore about the Primals that was laid out back in FFXIV version 1.0 (which did not have a player SMN Job) - from minute one the player is told "Primals=BAD", that the traditional FF summons were being summoned by beastmen only, and because of that even mentioning summoning is verboten. So creating a player-made SMN was always going to be a difficult task, not helped by the aforementioned player expectations.

    It's kind of like the wizard situation in The Lord of the Rings Online (developers couldn't have wizard as a player class due to established lore of LotR's universe that said there were only a few wizards around, and so the developers came up with a psuedo-wizard class which chuck potions to create minor spells), so this is hardly an unusual occurance in MMOs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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