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  1. #11
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    Sqwall Lionheart
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    I have also looked into this.

    THIS IS THEORY

    Filth and the Fury is a reference to The Sex Pistols.
    The sex pistols were heavy anti culture and believed in anarchy. Anti Law and order. And one of their biggest songs was Anarchy in The UK. Lyrics lean heavily to "anti-Christ" and "anarchist"
    This is a stretch but "anti" could mean "anti normal" or "anti magic". Unconventional forms of combat in FFXIV's case.

    Anti magic is ALSO used in the past by the Chronomancer not confused with time mage.

    Which uses a scythe as a primary weapon. Much like the Grim Reaper which has similarities with Yoshi P's shirt.
    Uses Arcana as their main school including Death, Destruction, Law, Time, Void abilities and magic.

    This further explains the reaper/skeleton link leaning heavily into:
    Death - Grim reaper/Death
    Destruction - anti life and pushes the idea of using destruction to damage others
    Law - every beginning has an end, and you can't escape death. Law of life.
    Time - every mortal life has a time limit, and the grim reaper escapes time by controlling time
    Void - the grim reaper defies the laws of physical form, and can be in many places at once.

    This is all speculation but interesting also in how it all "sort of links".

    AGAIN this is a THEROY. Food for thought.

    I would like PUP as well
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  2. #12
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    Silver-Strider's Avatar
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    Silver Strider
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    Inb4 it becomes a limited job like BLU
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  3. #13
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    Mica Zerrshia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasler_Heios View Post
    It seems to me that puppetmaster and beastmaster are ranged DPS rather than melee.
    Pup and bst in xi were both melee. The only way in which they were ranged was if they used their pets exclusively to fight, which also meant they were bad pups and bsts in many cases.
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  4. #14
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    Iiiiiiiiiiit's Meeeee
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    Inb4 it becomes a limited job like BLU
    I hope so TBH.
    Let me customize and build my puppet like a Custom Robo or a Medabot.
    I'd be so into that.
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  5. #15
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    Wiccan026's Avatar
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    Cerryl Lorinth
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Puppet Master would be more likely than beast master.... if only because it's IV related in a way.
    Classic FFIV of course had the famous Calabrinca fight.... FFIV the after years kind of had (again in it's own way) a puppet master band (or at least nod to the future job)
    with the dwarf princess Lucca (or whatever her name was).

    I do think whatever the melee job is, we will be able to link it in some way to IV. Sage as a job references both Tella and FuSoYa in the original (and of course Palom and Lenore in After years... although they were both striving to become one).

    Were going to the mood, getting IV minions, I'd be shocked if the melee job can't be linked back to IV in some way.
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  6. #16
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    Fal Kearst
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sqwall View Post
    I have also looked into this.

    THIS IS THEORY

    Filth and the Fury is a reference to The Sex Pistols.
    The sex pistols were heavy anti culture and believed in anarchy. Anti Law and order. And one of their biggest songs was Anarchy in The UK. Lyrics lean heavily to "anti-Christ" and "anarchist"
    This is a stretch but "anti" could mean "anti normal" or "anti magic". Unconventional forms of combat in FFXIV's case.

    Anti magic is ALSO used in the past by the Chronomancer not confused with time mage.

    Which uses a scythe as a primary weapon. Much like the Grim Reaper which has similarities with Yoshi P's shirt.
    Uses Arcana as their main school including Death, Destruction, Law, Time, Void abilities and magic.

    This further explains the reaper/skeleton link leaning heavily into:
    Death - Grim reaper/Death
    Destruction - anti life and pushes the idea of using destruction to damage others
    Law - every beginning has an end, and you can't escape death. Law of life.
    Time - every mortal life has a time limit, and the grim reaper escapes time by controlling time
    Void - the grim reaper defies the laws of physical form, and can be in many places at once.

    This is all speculation but interesting also in how it all "sort of links".

    AGAIN this is a THEROY. Food for thought.

    I would like PUP as well
    Im all in for this theory too!
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    REDNESS

  7. #17
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    I think Yoshida was the real puppetmaster all along
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  8. #18
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    Sqwall Lionheart
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    Did some digging and found this, it drips FFXIV. It's from a F2P game Let it die.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcqGIWk90ug

    But the song title got me. "Always see You There"

    Then I found this! Around the 10:05 mark and it hit me like a ton of bricks. It even LOOKS like FFXIV gear with buckles, black, hood, leather.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFtq25VElu0

    Is this a direct reference to Yoshi P's shirt "I'll be here if you need me"?

    I'm going to go out on a limb hear and say the new melee class is "Reaper".

    Using Death, Drain, Arcana, while using a scythe as a main hand weapon.
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  9. #19
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    Arlo Nine-tails
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    I wonder how they would pull out Puppeteer (or even Beastmaster) as a mainstream job without running into the same problems that plagues Summoner, and to an extent Scholar.

    I just don't see it, unless there's a big sphagetti code improvement on the horizon that would finally allow more responsive pets.
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    Dal S'ta
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    Gilgamesh
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    Bard Lv 90
    .... aaaaaaand this is how Conspiracy Theories are born.
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