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  1. #21
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    Jirah's Avatar
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    Jira Dal'riata
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    Bard Lv 100
    AST has been drowning in mediocrity since 5.0. Loosing cards mystique, the audacity of wth they did with Sleeve draw, and now Noct sect being removed and im assuming some of its shielding. But who knows it might be good but the devs haven’t handled healers well


    And why isn’t anyone scared for SCH? It may lose a few tools to compensate with SAG
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    SweetPete's Avatar
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    Princess- Princess
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    Coeurl
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    Alchemist Lv 100
    I saw this coming. I’m not even mad at SE. Astro has always thrown a wrench into healer balance because it’s ability to go either regen or shields. I’m glad Nocturnal is going away tbh. When I played scholar it sucked when an Astro wouldn’t even switch from shield stance even when begged and pleaded with. Some just enjoyed trolling and enjoying their power trip.

    We will have 2 regen healers and 2 barrier healers. Maybe now square can balance them all better. Being able to set 8 man content to it can only bring one regen and 1 shield healer, I’m so looking forward to this change. I love Astro and sad to see Noct go but I’m excited to see what they add and change with the skills of Astro.

    Sage is looking amazing though. Can’t wait to main it.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jirah View Post
    And why isn’t anyone scared for SCH? It may lose a few tools to compensate with SAG
    Because SCH is already nerfed like every expansion before being rebuffed. It's sadly the norm at expansion launch at this point.
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    Leidolf Kvasir
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    Diabolos
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jirah View Post
    AST has been drowning in mediocrity since 5.0. Loosing cards mystique, the audacity of wth they did with Sleeve draw, and now Noct sect being removed and im assuming some of its shielding. But who knows it might be good but the devs haven’t handled healers well


    And why isn’t anyone scared for SCH? It may lose a few tools to compensate with SAG
    What more could they take? Selene is a reskin of Eos (and in hindsight that should have been the first clue). Shadowflare is gone entirely, along with most of the other DPS tools. The only healer with its Job Identity intact from 2.0 is WHM and I guess SAG considering they just came onto the scene.

    Unless they take away the fairy itself, they can't do anything else to hurt it.
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    Last edited by Leidolf; 02-06-2021 at 01:40 PM.

  5. #25
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Leidolf View Post
    Unless they take away the fairy itself, they can't do anything else to hurt it.
    Considering how the current fairy handles I wouldn't even be mad, just give me those abilities as actual oGCDs.
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  6. #26
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    Thalia Beckford
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    We don't know that shields won't overlap. Regens already do so they may change that.
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    Hyomin Park
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    We don't know that shields won't overlap. Regens already do so they may change that.
    Shields have never been able to stack, with the exception of the new Neutral Sect shield. It stacks with other shields, but Galvanize and Nocturnal have never stacked with each other.
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  8. #28
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Shields have never been able to stack, with the exception of the new Neutral Sect shield. It stacks with other shields, but Galvanize and Nocturnal have never stacked with each other.
    And they may change that now so they don't hurt Sage and Scholar being able to work together.
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  9. #29
    Player IceBlueNinja's Avatar
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    Blade Beoulve
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MintnHoney View Post
    I dunno, I think we have enough experience and info, at this point, to see that their design philosophy isn't changing, so the decision to make another "pure healer" is extremely worrisome.
    I was also more of a Noct AST fan, myself, so I'm also a bit upset by that bit of news.
    amen sister noct rocks only people who have no sense never took the time to realize nocts potential
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    Last edited by IceBlueNinja; 02-23-2021 at 12:04 AM.

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    Player IceBlueNinja's Avatar
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    Blade Beoulve
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    Quote Originally Posted by MintnHoney View Post
    I don't believe that's the case, actually, even if you can certainly play all of the healers that way.


    I don't remember anyone specifically asking for that, actually. In fact, it's that they want to force the two types of healers that makes me believe that they didn't learn their lesson thus far.
    Every job needs to be fun, and then dynamic enough to provide their own (hopefully unique) solutions to problems that come up in gameplay. Pigeonholing doesn't usually provide any room for that.
    agreed but not everyone like the noct stance haters read anyways lol
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