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    Quote Originally Posted by IceBlueNinja View Post
    go check my post in about sage job maybe thay may open your eyes on why noct is awesome
    I’ve already been reading your posts—and responding to them—in the other thread about Sage. I’m still not convinced.

    If you’re referencing the post with the crazy amount of stacked shields you made in that thread—I already replied to it. As I said there: better get all of those prepped pre-pull because AST cannot swap sects in combat, thereby losing the ability to stack that many resources at the same time. Double AST is not a meta comp, so even if you ran two ASTs, you would never blow all of your major healing cooldowns like that at the same time anyways. That is a terrible allocation of resources.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zolvolt View Post
    The amount of misinformation on noct being bad is blowing my mind rn. Noct's ability to mitigate and remove damage with ogcd's is pretty strong. Diurnal doesn't even get damage mitigation unless they channel their bubble. Their shield potency is higher than sch's. And saying noct is worse than double regen just are spending too much time hard casting asp.helios and not enough time OGCD healing mechanics. That being said sure double regen will be good on easy content. But don't act like noct ast doesn't have a very welcomed place next to whm.
    Please don’t act as if Nocturnal Sect is the more valued of the two Sects. It has never been more valued over Diurnal Sect in the 6 years AST has existed. If it was so valuable and so good, then why is it readjusted multiple times per each expansion? Why is it not the norm for the job? Why is it not meta? No one is saying that Noct AST is weak—they are saying that it is not as valuable or as efficient as Diurnal. Standard healer comps are still WHM/SCH or DiAST/SCH. While WHM/Noct AST exists, it is most certainly not the norm or the meta.

    Personally, I think you’re the one who is a bit misinformed here. That, or you are blinded by your love for the sect and unwilling to look at what has been proven again and again. Diurnal AST has always been the more efficient and more desired of AST’s two stances.

    Quote Originally Posted by Piarkire View Post
    Actually, both of those can stack with each other but not on top of the same thing; I've physically tested this.

    They never said that they don’t stack—they said that they don’t stack continuously. I’m guessing they what they meant is that: Neutral Sect is an ability with a 20-second duration on a 120-second cooldown. Therefore, every 2 minutes, you have the ability to cast shields that stack for a total of 20 seconds (the shields last the standard 30 seconds). However, you do not have the ability to do this constantly during a fight. Continuous stacking of shields would be overpowered, especially when paired with AOE mitigation from other jobs.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 02-06-2021 at 02:44 PM.
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