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    Player
    Rilifane's Avatar
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    Esther Harper
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    You're basically saying you're bad at playing mechanics correctly but with Noct and slapping GCD shields on yourself you can still survive it, so Noct must be really, really good.
    I hope you're aware just how much that disqualifies you.

    You have yet to bring up a single valid point why Noct is so much better.
    Not to mention it has been stated multiple times that Noct is neither bad nor useless but that experienced healers will almost always chose Diurnal because it is stronger if someone can play decently. You're free to play in any Sect you prefer; you could even play without a Sect at all in casual content. Most people probably wouldn't even notice.
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    Coletergeist's Avatar
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    Cin Aamon
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    I mean I'm *upset* because I am a Noct Ast myself, but I mean... I'll just switch to the new Sage or go try Scholar when they changes take place.
    We have 4 healers to choose from (soon), and who knows what they have planned for us and what they plan to do with AST.
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    Player IceBlueNinja's Avatar
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    Character
    Blade Beoulve
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Coletergeist View Post
    I mean I'm *upset* because I am a Noct Ast myself, but I mean... I'll just switch to the new Sage or go try Scholar when they changes take place.
    We have 4 healers to choose from (soon), and who knows what they have planned for us and what they plan to do with AST.
    Me2 friend if I have to go sage that is fine, already remember someone saying it has some a couple things similar to noct ast so its a win win for me xD. Barrier healing will always be fun and challenging for me.
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    althenawhm's Avatar
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    Character
    Althena Rolair
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Seriously, just give me Stoneskin back so every healer can be a shield healer.
    I miss Stoneskin ;_;
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    Hysterior's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Larek Darkholme
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    I am SO UPSET about this change that we know NOTHING about!
    Fix it NOW!
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    Larek Darkholme @ Ragnarok

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    ItMe's Avatar
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    Character
    Iiiiiiiiiiit's Meeeee
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hysterior View Post
    I am SO UPSET about this change that we know NOTHING about!
    Fix it NOW!
    Hahahahhaa
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    CrioChamber's Avatar
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    Character
    Crio Chamber
    World
    Halicarnassus
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Coming from another Astrologian main who did BOTH Diurnal AND Nocturnal (I flipped based on my partner), my god they were both good in their own right! Regens are handsome, but in Nocturnal stance with Celestial Opposition and Collective Unconscious made for some dang good damage mitigation. Combine that with Aspected Helios, and the party barely took any damage. A single Helios would've topped everyone off after the raidwide.
    On that flip side, after the raidwide, combine Aspected Helios and Celestial Opposition and the party would be full or nearly full before the next one. If not, you could throw out your Collective Unconscious for a little damage reduction and a little extra regen.

    My BIGGEST argument is that, especially when solo-queuing 8-24 man content, if I had a WHM or SCH was in the party, I could easily swap and complement my healer. I.E. Regens and Shields. WHM/NoctAST or SCH/DiurAST. Making AST a pure (regen) healer is going to make why I chose AST null and void. The cards were just a bonus. I LOVE(D) being able to swap on a moment's notice to complement my partner healer.

    I will admit, I did prefer Diurnal stance in 4-man content simply because I could get a new and squishy tank to full quicker, but I loved being able to just swap depending on my healing partner. Basically, them saying they're making AST a pure healer is making me extremely worried.
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    Last edited by CrioChamber; 02-09-2021 at 02:02 AM.

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    Xelanar's Avatar
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    Character
    Xelanar Fhey
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    My main concern is that they might treat this transition the same way they treaded the card system, specially in the lore / jobquest department.
    Up until now every update to Astrologians has taken away something I liked, replacing it with something dull or nothing at all.

    - Time Dilation had a really nice feel to it, and I liked the time-related aspect in general.
    - Cards shifting from situational support functions and distinct flavor to a dull 6% increase in damage. And for people like me, who care about job flavor and lore, this was even worse, since beforehand each card sort of reflected its constellation and what it stands for. Astrologian Job quests do not even make sense in regard to constellations anymore.
    - Sleeve Draw drawing only one single card to make the job's opener easier to handle, without compensating for my loss of DPS and screwing my opener in every single fight where no one cares about a 30 second pull-timer beforehand.

    So considering how Astrologians have been treated in the past, of course I'm going into this with a lot of skepticism. I do wonder though, if they at least are going to care about adapting the Job's background story this time around, instead of just making its skillset more streamlined.

    As of now they are going to take away something I liked - again. Its adaptability. What are they going to replace it with? Who knows - hopefully with something nice! But all of the above is making me kind of anxious about it >.<.
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  10. #10
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    Sylvain's Avatar
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    Character
    Sylvestre Solscribe
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    I don't see the issue.
    AST were mostly diurnal throughout HW and SB.

    People keep complaining about identity and that AST was both at the same.
    Here, problems solved, it's a Regen healer with occasional shields (assuming neutral sect doesn't change)
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