How could you do this to AST?

[ItMe]

Then change Time Dilation to only affect AST cards/Horoscope and regen, if that's too powerful then make is only effect their regens.

When I wrote "Burst Phase" I only intended to mean the cards/horoscope, since a good AST would be lining that up with a DPS's burst.

Oooh, I missed your distinction.
My bad.

[IceBlueNinja]

There is no scenario, ever, where you spam Benefit/Cure 1 above 26-30. The fact you say this only adds further credence you don't understand how Diurnal works or how to deploy Regens properly. Shields aren't going to save an undergeared tank any more than Diurnals if they aren't using CDs.

In fact, let's do some simple math. At near BiS healer, Aspected Benefic will do 11,250 heal. In Noct this translates to roughly 40,000 (base heal + x250% shield) while in Diurnal it equates to 66,000 (base heal + 11,250x5). So no, Aspected Benefic shields are not in any way better than Regens. They may feel that way to the naked eye because the tank's HP isn't moving, but in actual numerical value, Diurnal is once again superior.

Sorry that you fail to read and see after 29 posts that nobody been arguing since then about this regen, shielding thing. I will say it because yeah apparently you just do not get simple context. Regens maybe better but I rather shields period, please do not even touch sage when it comes out ms(mr) oh mighty regen one. I be looking at other people post and you seem to be one of the major one to say some negative things to the op.

[ForteNightshade]

Sorry that you fail to read and see after 29 posts that nobody been arguing since then about this regen, shielding thing. I will say it because yeah apparently you just do not get simple context. Regens maybe better but I rather shields period, please do not even touch sage when it comes out ms(mr) oh mighty regen one. I be looking at other people post and you seem to be one of the major one to say some negative things to the op.

And yet I can go back a mere four pages and you're still going on about the superiority of shields. I mostly quoted that particular post because of what I highlighted. I don't need to go through every subsequent reply to note how wrong that statement is. I do find it cute my criticisms somehow means I don't understand how Sage or shielding healing works. In any event, if you simply said you prefer shields. None of us would be. You didn't. You kept insisting shields were better. Hence the responses.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

I miss the stormblood astro, it was so much more fun and faster. They've dumbed it down and slowed it down so much I really don't enjoy it anymore. Now they take away more of the variety the job has is saddening. Every tank and healer are just clones with different skins on them at this point and it's really boring.

[HyoMinPark]

I do not need your sarcastic welcome you clown, also nice to know the into low life things you into, enjoy your party disgusting party. Sorry your just a wierdo that do not understand when a hybrid get strip of something to become a single class that it make no sense to have bother made it hybrid in the first place. You do not have anything better to do?. You only seem to have a mouth to me and your lil buddies but cant seem find the power to go after others who also voice their opinion on noct being removed. Hope you made 1mil dollars for your entertainment, real drama queen with mouth only on a pc screen.

People keep replying to you and not the others because the other ASTs that are upset about Noct being removed aren’t behaving in an abhorrent manner like you are. Calling people clowns and dumb is something only you’ve been doing, my dude. Perhaps you should take a break from the internet because you’re very much out of line with your comment here.

[ForteNightshade]

I do not need your sarcastic welcome you clown, also nice to know the into low life things you into, enjoy your party disgusting party. Sorry your just a wierdo that do not understand when a hybrid get strip of something to become a single class that it make no sense to have bother made it hybrid in the first place. You do not have anything better to do?. You only seem to have a mouth to me and your lil buddies but cant seem find the power to go after others who also voice their opinion on noct being removed. Hope you made 1mil dollars for your entertainment, real drama queen with mouth only on a pc screen.

All fun aside, like HyoMin said. We aren't quoting anyone else because they're only lamenting their disappointment Noct Sect is gone whereas you... make responses like this. Once again, if you simply replied how much you enjoyed Noct AST and wish they weren't going in this probable direction. Well, this thread would likely have far less posts.

[IceBlueNinja]

All fun aside, like HyoMin said. We aren't quoting anyone else because they're only lamenting their disappointment Noct Sect is gone whereas you... make responses like this. Once again, if you simply replied how much you enjoyed Noct AST and wish they weren't going in this probable direction. Well, this thread would likely have far less posts.

Seem you sound stuck there now trying to find a valid reason by now trying to change the topic to say you make responses like this, yet your the one with this rude saying of dont know how to play the class, lets do basic math blah blah and what do you call these responses? Amma say it for like the 10th time now, regens are superior that is fine, but other people like myself still find shielding more fun and prefer it. Notice like 7 times now I said I acknowledge this?

[IceBlueNinja]

People keep replying to you and not the others because the other ASTs that are upset about Noct being removed aren’t behaving in an abhorrent manner like you are. Calling people clowns and dumb is something only you’ve been doing, my dude. Perhaps you should take a break from the internet because you’re very much out of line with your comment here.

Perhaps you should check back a few pages where people call me things first and saying rude things like not knowing how to play ast what do you all that then? telling someone to take a break off internet is not being out of line too? I thought you said you would not even reply to me no more but here you are. Shrimage obviously started everything Ill glady post how it all started so again idc if yall buddies and wanna defend each other but wrong is wrong, some of yall started saying rude things to me so its only fair I do it back. calling me chickadee is not being rude? Talking about stripping parties is not rude ? wow ok.

[Mesarthim]

If you could stop acting like you're 5 this argument might never have happened. Once upon a time this thread was about AST but instead was derailed because you can't stop wanting the last word. I stop playing for effectively 9 months and it seems it's just business as usual on the official forum.

Constantly going back and editing in gifs doesn't exactly do much to calm matters.

[HyoMinPark]

Perhaps you should check back a few pages where people call me things first and saying rude things like not knowing how to play ast what do you all that then? Why dont you take a break off the internet and not tell others what to do ? Shrimage obviously started everything Ill glady post how it all started so again idc if yall buddies and wanna defend each other but wrong is wrong, some of yall started saying rude things to me so its only fair I do it back. calling me chickadee is not being rude? Talking about stripping parties is not rude ? wow ok.

First of all, they aren’t my “buddy”. They are a forum poster I have seen around a bit, but we don’t interact outside of this platform, which I haven’t posted on in ages until very recently. So this has very little to do with us being “buddies”.

Second of all, “chickadee” is slang, but it’s certainly not an insult. Nor is it something “rude”.

As a slang word, chickadee is an old-fashioned variation on the more usual ‘chick’, which means "baby bird" in standard English. Its most famous usage was in comedian W.C. Fields' 1940 movie My Little Chickadee. Although we associate chick, and especially hippy chick, with the 1960s, it has been used since around 1900.

It’s more often than not used as a pet name in English, generally towards females. A chickadee is actually a kind of small bird.

And they weren’t talking about literal stripping parties. Their phrase was “identity stripping”, which means something is losing a piece of its identity, i.e., it’s being stripped away. The phrase “biannual stripping party” was a reference to expansion releases where jobs get overhauled and/or lose skills/traits. I get that English likely isn’t your first language but at least try to do a little Googling to understand what they may be saying before jumping to any conclusions. Their post was just them being sardonic.


As for rude things, you were actually the first person to say something rude in this thread. You called me dumb somewhere near the beginning of it, though that post was deleted by a moderator for obvious reasons.

Just because people are rude to you doesn’t mean you have to be rude back. But by all means, stoop to their levels and bask in the hypocrisy of it if that’s what you want to do. Don’t dish it out if you can’t take it, though.