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    Player IceBlueNinja's Avatar
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    Blade Beoulve
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesarthim View Post
    If you could stop acting like you're 5 this argument might never have happened. Once upon a time this thread was about AST but instead was derailed because you can't stop wanting the last word. I stop playing for effectively 9 months and it seems it's just business as usual on the official forum.

    Constantly going back and editing in gifs doesn't exactly do much to calm matters.
    and your not acting like 5 yourself for calling someone 5? adding insults to injuries do not calm matters again I didnt start gif first they did it first . I stop with this whole regen / shield things and they brought it up again.
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    Semirhage's Avatar
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    Nemene Damendar
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    Honey, I was telling you that if you don't want to be disappointed by changes to your main role, you should probably try swapping to DPS. I said it in a joking way, but I'm only half joking there. If you think you're going to be pleasantly surprised by healer design direction, I wouldn't bet on it.

    "Biannual identity stripping party" meaning every two years, healers get identity removed from them. This change is just the most recent one.
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    Braedyn Geld
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    Honey, I was telling you that if you don't want to be disappointed by changes to your main role, you should probably try swapping to DPS. I said it in a joking way, but I'm only half joking there. If you think you're going to be pleasantly surprised by healer design direction, I wouldn't bet on it.

    "Biannual identity stripping party" meaning every two years, healers get identity removed from them. This change is just the most recent one.
    While what you're saying is true, I'm disappointed that Squeenix is more willing to alter a job's identity (and invalidate the very lore quests they designed), instead of working within the established identities to try new ways of accomplishing better balance. So far, all they've done is diminish QOL and job satisfaction. I'm expecting the new healer job to be insanely popular -- not because it is interesting or fun, but because healers are exhausted by the changes made to their favorites.
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    Rozemyne Shyahoro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Side-Eye View Post
    While what you're saying is true, I'm disappointed that Squeenix is more willing to alter a job's identity (and invalidate the very lore quests they designed), instead of working within the established identities to try new ways of accomplishing better balance. So far, all they've done is diminish QOL and job satisfaction. I'm expecting the new healer job to be insanely popular -- not because it is interesting or fun, but because healers are exhausted by the changes made to their favorites.
    Which is why I happily threw AST under the bus after I got it to 80 (former healer and AST main). I don't hate everything about the ShB AST, some I even like, but it left a bad taste in my mouth. Personally now I'd just it rather not have cards at all at this point. I moved to SCH but even though it's functional it's a disjointed mess (none of the capstone abilities synergize, fey blessing pretty much useless for the cooldown/heal). They're even changing AST "again" so why would I want to go back to it right now? I'll just wait and see if Endwalker AST makes me care again.

    Primarily going to play Sage because I didn't take too kindly to the AST and SCH changes this expansion (the two I bounced between). I pretty much don't have a main job, or role rather. Just bouncing between tank and dps mostly right now.
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    Last edited by Mesarthim; 03-09-2021 at 04:06 AM.

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    Hyomin Park
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    Sage Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    Honey, I was telling you that if you don't want to be disappointed by changes to your main role, you should probably try swapping to DPS. I said it in a joking way, but I'm only half joking there. If you think you're going to be pleasantly surprised by healer design direction, I wouldn't bet on it.

    "Biannual identity stripping party" meaning every two years, healers get identity removed from them. This change is just the most recent one.
    Honestly, sometimes not even DPS jobs are safe. Just look at what they did to ShB BRD. It’s BRD in name only now. ;w;
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    Sage | Astrologian | Dancer

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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Honestly, sometimes not even DPS jobs are safe. Just look at what they did to ShB BRD. It’s BRD in name only now. ;w;
    Let's push this back a little further...HwD BRD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seoulstar View Post
    Let's push this back a little further...HwD BRD.
    At least HW BRD had party support in the form of MP/TP regen—even if it did cost you 10% damage to use... ShB BRD doesn’t have hardly anything. Troubadour isn’t anything special anymore, and while Minne affecting oGCD healing is nice, it’s not really enough to play into a support role. SB BRD was near perfect but they just had to go and mess with it...
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    Sage | Astrologian | Dancer

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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    At least HW BRD had party support in the form of MP/TP regen—even if it did cost you 10% damage to use... ShB BRD doesn’t have hardly anything. Troubadour isn’t anything special anymore, and while Minne affecting oGCD healing is nice, it’s not really enough to play into a support role. SB BRD was near perfect but they just had to go and mess with it...
    That...is a very good point..
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    Nemene Damendar
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Honestly, sometimes not even DPS jobs are safe. Just look at what they did to ShB BRD. It’s BRD in name only now. ;w;
    Yeesh, don't remind me. I'm furiously knocking on wood that they don't take a hacksaw to RDM. Its core is still intact, but it's only had one expansion to draw that short straw so far.

    Then again I'm a former WHM enthusiast. Favorite job starting with some potential but getting stOOpidER every expansion is old hat by now.
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    Wiccan Ghost
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    I'm fairly new to AST; with it now being my main cuz I fell in love with it due to the card/buffing system and how stunning all the spells and abilities look. Specially compared to how lackluster/ordinary WHM and SCH abilities/spells look. Going back to your original post, you mentioned that you were going to have to switch because you needed a shield healer since your friend goes WHM; but I've always read/seen that Diurnal Sect should always be your go to choice when playing AST and that you should really only ever use Diurnal when playing with another AST. So you should still be able to play AST just fine.
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