How could you do this to AST?

[IceBlueNinja]

After reading back through this thread's post twice just to be sure, I'm closely striding to the point where (my apologies beforehand..) I'm getting a strong inkling that you're either purely oblivious or simply trolling. I surely hope it's not the latter, because those experienced players were genuinely trying to dismiss many misconceptions/anecdotes with the given cold hard facts.

I never said you are -actually- clipping anything (hint: potentially). But WHMs in fact, has one particular ability that actually benefits them to clip its use if it means to have them constantly on cooldown. So that reply does explain something from this discussion Heck, I even wonder if we're actually talking about the same 'clipping'...

Look mate, we get it. You love Nocturnal Sect with passion. There's nothing wrong in that. Nobody says you are wrong to love Nocturnal. Nobody's 'hating' nocturnal like you have claimed nor implied so far in this thread. In fact some players (including myself) actually LOVES and don't mind to play nocturnal stance in some given time. Spreading misconceptions purely based by feeling while denying any form of opposing facts however, is the last thing these AST lovers wants to see---and frankly, it speaks a lot about yourself.

I do hope you'll find solace in playing Sage in 6.0 like you've replied to somebody else earlier because I feel like it's a lost cause trying to explain further, especially after numerous attempts and hints from the others. Bless

Is it a crime to reply to somebody who shares my opinion and what you and others brag about dirunal and saying rude things like not knowing how to play ast cause I have issue using it in dirunal as opposed to noct says alot about you and them too. You and some others do degrade people just because of one thing they may not use
well or not like. Also as you say we noct stance lovers get yall are compassionate about dirunal as well do too. It is fair now to say if am like oh my I cant play ether stances of this class and this class is whack or too complicated or has no use then it be more fair saying I just dont how to play it since am complaining about the entire thing of the class instead of one thing. One thing should not mean a person is entirely bad at it. Its like a fighting game where a person can have different opinions on a char. Some may find it too powerful or some may thing it lacks power but it dont mean that the one who think it lacks power means they just a bad player. It can just mean it dont fit their play style and aint their cup of tea I do not mind what people dislikes or like fine but when it becomes too far in degrading someone that they dont play something right it becomes very serious. Also with your last comment idk sarcastic or not so well if your not thank you, and if you are still have a blessed day yourself.

[VictorTheed]

Sorry about the astro changes friend, hopefully you'll find another healer u like or end up liking the healer changes.

I was also a big nocturnal sect fan, imo shield healing is easier so it's why I chose astro over whm when I healed dungeons, I hope they keep that move that gives u insta cast for a period of time cause it's been a helpful move for me when it comes to astro.

The sage is gonna be my new healer though cause it's a shield healer and it looks cool, but ultimately that decision will be made once I've got to try out all the healers in 6.0, so best of luck to u pal in your future healing endeavors.

[IceBlueNinja]

Sorry about the astro changes friend, hopefully you'll find another healer u like or end up liking the healer changes.

I was also a big nocturnal sect fan, imo shield healing is easier so it's why I chose astro over whm when I healed dungeons, I hope they keep that move that gives u insta cast for a period of time cause it's been a helpful move for me when it comes to astro.

The sage is gonna be my new healer though cause it's a shield healer and it looks cool, but ultimately that decision will be made once I've got to try out all the healers in 6.0, so best of luck to u pal in your future healing endeavors.

Yeah exactly we can always move to sage. Say if they have instant cast shield at least and even some type abilty that let us sling spells instantly or power up our spells, well hello upgraded better noct ast I will be more than happy to change x3. Hope the changes we seek and think is the result.

[Jukebox12]

can a community manger close this thread all i am seeing is arguement that are going nowhere. i have seen a couple of post that are rude and negative. also hi

[Semirhage]

Meh these regens lover can run their mouth al they want, you know at the end of the days all these regen lovers need a game to do their job for them. regen = free auto heal and so these regen lovers are too lazy to do their own job

Oh. Oh no, are you the reincarnation of Whats-her-face, the kooky Forum Princess Healer from Heavensward? The one who spent pages and pages ranting that regens were for the explicit purpose of countering poison or bleed ONLY, and that using them on regular damage was "cheating"? And consequently using the time windows opened by this efficiency gain to deal damage were also "cheating", as was doing anything other than spamming Cure because that was, ahem, "the developer's intent", and she was the only healer "playing correctly/not cheating"?

(I swear to god this person was real, those threads were a riot)

[IceBlueNinja]

Oh. Oh no, are you the reincarnation of Whats-her-face, the kooky Forum Princess Healer from Heavensward? The one who spent pages and pages ranting that regens were for the explicit purpose of countering poison or bleed ONLY, and that using them on regular damage was "cheating"? And consequently using the time windows opened by this efficiency gain to deal damage were also "cheating", as was doing anything other than spamming Cure because that was, ahem, "the developer's intent", and she was the only healer "playing correctly/not cheating"?

(I swear to god this person was real, those threads were a riot)

Nice attempt at being funny and showing how much of a apparent drama queen you are, no post after had no one bad mouthing anyone for a good couple hours , but here comes you the karen from walmart who need everyone to notice her *waves*. who said anything of spamming cure, who said anything about poison or bleed? Go get a check up you sound like a looney toon. You cant even remember the person your speaking about to make your self more riri.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Shiva's Absolute Zero when it was current says hello

He did said ‘with mitigation’ on the sentence prior to the one you quoted. Unmitigated? Yeah, that one will wipe the party very easily. But mitigation is an effort of the whole party, not just the shielders.

[Rilifane]

The "welcome to savage" aoe within the first 15sec is a staple though, so if I see a cast within that time frame I slap whatever mitigation I have on it. It's like 90% certain that it's the classic raidwide. Spreading out mitigation more afterwards is always an option but better to overmitigate it on a whim than die to it.
The damage was surprisingly high but the aoe itself was nothing you couldn't anticipate going in blind. And after the first try ended after 12s or something, it was easy enough to keep in mind from then on.

[Sqwall]

I'll never understand this argument lol

Heal over time is strong, but so are shields. I have played both and I always seem to favor Diurnal, especially with Neutral Sect offering the best of both worlds. I really do like Noct, but not as much as Diurnal.

Heck I have even had tanks ask me to switch before extreme fights, and I didn't put up a fight. Just had to change gears and remember the way Noct plays.

Diurnal is great
Noct is great

Diurnal wins in the end for 6.0. Which i'm kind of thankful for, as if I would have to play Noct only on AST I would probably changed to WHM or Sage if it was a pure healer. Sage being another shield healer makes me appreciate AST even more, now that focus can shift to cards which is why I started the class in the first place. RIP time mechanics

Change to Sage or Scholar for shields.

[MintnHoney]

now that focus can shift to cards which is why I started the class in the first place.

I'm curious about this line of thinking.
Are you referring to gameplay, or are you thinking that, by removing Nocturnal sect, Squeen is suddenly going to focus on providing engaging cardplay for Astro?

Because, in either case, I don't know that I could agree with that. You can't really "focus" on your cards if you're playing the current iteration of AST "correctly" (and there isn't really anything to focus on, let's be honest), and history suggests that the Devs will shift the focus even further away from cards so that we can think about healing even more (and then end up defaulting to DPS, because we won't need it), even if they do anything to compensate for the "inconsequential" (according to many forum users) loss of Nocturnal Sect at all (which, I doubt).