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  1. #51
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    MsQi's Avatar
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    X'lota Qi
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    Lamia
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    What about those that did a !@#%-ton in the first phase which was not tracked? What about those who carried on after the rankings? Those with the saint title ARE NOT the only ones who built it.
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  2. #52
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    Iiiiiiiiiiit's Meeeee
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountReavyr View Post
    Now, don't hate me, I know it is the forums, but hear me out!

    I think it'd be super cool if people with the Saint title got first dibs for a plot in the new housing if they want it.
    It's kinda hard for me to say "I'm not into this idea," when I also don't like the idea of people doing so much to help with the restoration and some of them won't be lucky and won't be getting a house in Ishgard... but I'm not into this idea.

    While the notion is kind, no one was promised a house. Suddenly adding this is misguided. If SQEX had led with this as part of the initial concept I might feel differently, but I'm not sure this is an appropriate move at this stage.
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  3. #53
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    Ryaz Darksbane
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    I got Saint Title the first round. I don't want this. Heck, I don't even want to move to Ishgard from my mansion on the hill in Mist. I just want access to their building designs. :P
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  4. #54
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    Kyuuen Queles
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountReavyr View Post
    Now, don't hate me, I know it is the forums, but hear me out!

    I think it'd be super cool if people with the Saint title got first dibs for a plot in the new housing if they want it.

    Realistically, that's what? 12-36 people per server, getting first pick of something like 1800 plots? Those poor fools busted their fingers trying to craft up a storm, titles are cool and all but surely they deserve a house. Right?

    I'm saying this as someone without the title, I'll be struggling to the fight the bots just like the rest of you :^)
    No, and I'm saying that as one of the people who got the title. Beside that your math is WAAAAY off... 11 jobs including Gathers who also received the title, and within each job 12 people ranked across three different seasons.

    11 x 12 x 3 = 396 people per server with the Saint title, maybe a few less if past winners chose to compete in further seasons. That would basically remove every single Large and Medium plot from the pool on each server and even some of the smalls.

    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    No you got the title and dibs on selling all the scrip rewards to people for lots of gil. You don't have any right to first dibs over a house.
    I'm not trying to make a case for the OP's idea, but don't twist facts here. Expert crafts took significantly more time than the highest ranked normal craft, which with the right macro takes maybe 40-50 seconds per craft. An expert on average (pending procs and you're not forcing the craft through macro) took 2-5 minutes. Script rewards or even the kupo scratch tickets are earned much quicker than those doing expert crafts and even then we were subjected to the same RNG as everyone else (as far as kupo tickets) and I have yet to see a single Casual Attire for myself.
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  5. 02-07-2021 05:51 PM
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  6. #55
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    Thy'mara Thurston
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    I think it should be dibs to anyone who contributed to the restoration.

    Getting Saint on some servers required hours of work, preparation, and for crafters melding/food/pots/delineations and gil. Getting Saint was grueling and I know a lot of players that would not have had a chance even if they were willing and met the in-game requirements just because of time.

    But contributing to the build? That just takes getting ONE crafter/gatherer to level 10, getting to HW in the game and doing some gathering or crafting. Not hard at all.

    Especially if you count FATE participation.
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  7. #56
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    Eurydice Binis
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    I still remember the image of the multiboxer who had 4(maybe 5) characters with saint title on the same DoH so I am going to say no.
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  8. #57
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    Jijifli Kokofli
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vickii View Post
    We literally built the house. Non crafters wouldn’t have finished the restoration if we didn’t do it for them. We sit there all day grinding it out and these guys just pop in to do the fates, and they’re going to make it hard for us to get houses after they put no effort in to help the server. It’s a bit distasteful.
    During 5.31's section there was so much requirement, and after ranking's there were so few people pushing it, that autofill was activating repeatedly basically everywhere. It was to the point where players were quickly discovering exactly when it would auto jump, how much, and figure out well in advance when the fates would be from that (and be right).

    Crafters were not at all required to finish it, as it turns out.
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  9. #58
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    Rasler-heios Nabradia
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    Tonberry
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    Quote Originally Posted by StriderShinryu View Post
    Honestly, I wouldn't mind that. At least limit it to people who actively contributed. (and, for the record, I didn't contribute and would not have first dibs access)
    Honestly, I also agree with the OP. If we are sure these are players who didn't use bots then I think it is just right. Unfortunately, how can we verify that?
    Also note, I don't have the saint title too.
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    "Is adventuring not supposed to be glorious? I thought it was supposed to be glorious." - Vath Deftarm, Dravanian Hinterlands, An Acquired Taste
    "That's a fine accomplishment lad. Young and lusty as you are, no doubt you'll achieve much and more in the years to come. I look forward to hearin' all your deeds." - Jonathas, Master of the Rolls, Old Gridania

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  11. #59
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    Juju Juicy
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    the ranking was so easy the only hard part is willing to spend 5 hrs a day to craft, doing that only for 10 days isn't hard at all.

    also sad people just assume the title = bot user when there are many legit saint's crafters

    i streamed 2 hours of my method and even shared it to my fc just to show them it's not rocket science to do expert crafting

    edit: also forgot to note i a triple season saint title holder.
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  12. #60
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    Cin Aamon
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    Reaper Lv 100
    what about the folks that worked hard but didnt get the title?
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