new relic weapon

[Undeadfire]

I like how Crystal Tower is the one they keep around. Because we just have to keep incentivizing that content no one ever runs. It never, EVER pops for Alliance nor is it mandatory for MSQ...

In Roulette? It's always Crystal Tower in Chaos.

[Vahlnir]

In Roulette? It's always Crystal Tower in Chaos.

Yeah, it is the same way on Crystal. I've seen Rabanastre a good bit the last few days though through roulette, but we have the relic grind to thank for that.

[Nighthawky2010]

As I stated in different Bozja or Relic posts, I'm very disappointed & upset with SE for giving those of us option to upgrade our relic weapon without doing Bozja. I got to level 8 in Bozja when it first came out, wasnt invested in it, & stop going in it. I leveled up 3 relics via the HW fates.

Now we have to go through Bozja, complete Castrum & DR to get to the next step. That's BS. I dont want to do either fights but its seems like I'm forced to if I want do the next relic steps. Whatever happened to options SE!! Doing all of that to get an i515 weapon. I wouldnt mind the alliance raids because everyone would be doing it & the que times would be fast.

Now I doubt if do the relic any more.

[MariaArvana]

In Roulette? It's always Crystal Tower in Chaos.

I think they were being sarcastic, given they mentioned it's not mandatory for the MSQ as part of their quip, which is obviously not the case lol.
they were just pointing out that out of the three raids, they chose the one that already is guaranteed 99% of the time in Alliance roulette, rather than choosing Mhachi or Ivalice to be the part of the step you have to do for each relic.

[Asaeampan]

tell me you are joking? :P

Been this way since ARR, no reason they'd change it this time.

[Ash_]

Pro tip for those still doing the 2nd step: fate grind is far better than Ivalice/mhachi raids. In Azim steppe I grinded out 8-9 in an hour, and that is with so-so or very average rng and just a small number of Blu's and randoms. Ivalice raids take about 20mins per run because they are just long, so 3-4 an hour, if your real life stamina holds out.

[Vahlnir]

Pro tip for those still doing the 2nd step: fate grind is far better than Ivalice/mhachi raids. In Azim steppe I grinded out 8-9 in an hour, and that is with so-so or very average rng and just a small number of Blu's and randoms. Ivalice raids take about 20mins per run because they are just long, so 3-4 an hour, if your real life stamina holds out.

It is HIGHLY RNG dependent. I found that doing the raids was more efficient, but that's because Fate RNG largely hated me. I got a few for my efforts, but I got more for my time by doing the raids.

[Undeadfire]

Raids are quicker, Fates are only relevant if you got Blue Mage to wipe them out quickly.

[Kaurhz]

As I stated in different Bozja or Relic posts, I'm very disappointed & upset with SE for giving those of us option to upgrade our relic weapon without doing Bozja. I got to level 8 in Bozja when it first came out, wasnt invested in it, & stop going in it. I leveled up 3 relics via the HW fates.

Now we have to go through Bozja, complete Castrum & DR to get to the next step. That's BS. I dont want to do either fights but its seems like I'm forced to if I want do the next relic steps. Whatever happened to options SE!! Doing all of that to get an i515 weapon. I wouldnt mind the alliance raids because everyone would be doing it & the que times would be fast.

Now I doubt if do the relic any more.

I think them making a distinction in the way they have between Bozja and the relic is a good decision really, as it is a perfect test to see how content like Bozja holds up independent of the relic. Locking the relic behind Bozja will really skew it. Since the incentive will be to do Bozja FOR the relic and not for other reasons. So I think it's a good chance for them to see if Bozja-esque content is worth developing going forward into future expansions. Otherwise, I daresay they'll play around until they find something that works.

One of the biggest criticisms of Eureka was you HAD to do it if you wanted the relic, and that it was the ONLY choice. This criticism was obviously addressed, perhaps too much.

The issue with CLL at the moment is just the overall incentive behind it. If it had the incentive or a sufficient number of people doing it then I'd argue that it wouldn't be an issue. That being said I'm surprised they didn't make the final step of the relic be CLL, PotD, and Delubrum.

[MicahZerrshia]

Yeah. It's still a bit of a grind but it will in theory be slightly less miserable than having to spam Rabanastre and Void Ark.

I hope. I am 9/8 on the mhach/ivalice drops so far since I am doing it casually and it is the most painful grind I have done yet in this game. And I did around 5-6 atma weapons pre-nerf. I tried farming fates but after an hour of solid farming with 0 drops I gave up and went back to another mhach. This is just beyond ridiculous.