Thread: Bozjan 5.45 - My opinion

Originally Posted by Dogempire

That just sounds like an excuse for lazy, recycled content. just because it's designed for people who like grinding doesn't mean they get a pass to implement it poorly and then make 0 changes to it

What recycled content? What's implemented poorly? I for one found the Southern Front fun, much better and detailed than Eureka with all the engagements and NPCs. You keep unlocking new areas as you progress, which was fun for me, and you can reach Rank 10 in no time (I took a single day with my first character, two days with my second).

Now, if what you want is to grind memories of the dying for the relic, you should have accepted what grind content is. And make no mistake, the relics are about grind (though, again, I just took two days per character's relic). Just, instead of taking the easy way of making you grind regular content like normal Fates, they created a new map full of things to explore and skills to toy with. I doubt you can make grinding any more interesting than that. What would you prefer?

Originally Posted by Clover_Blake

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The content is recycled because all they did was just throw some fates in an instance arbitrarily split into 3. The CE's are poorly implemented because instead of making them an area boss they throw an arbitrary RNG selection process onto them. The only thing I actually like about them is that they let you teleport to the location instead of having to run the entirety of the map. The pseudo-instance borders are ugly and do nothing but keep too many people from having fun at a time.

It's far too late for them to fix Bozja, but if they actually wanted to make the fate grinding interesting, they could adopt a Eureka-esque model where fates contribute to the zone's progress. Instead of the strange layout they have right now they could turn Bozja into something actually assembling a battlefield, with each skirmish lost meaning a certain piece of the map is lost, and a corresponding skirmish spawns to take back said part of the map. Critical engagements wouldn't be gated off but it would be possible to teleport to them and the engagements window would show how many players are currently within the area.

Each fate pushes the map's progress a little more, and spawning critical engagements that should be beaten, until the map's major event, let's make that Castrum Lacus Litore, is opened. Instead of forcing an arbitrary player limit on the area, it won't be gated off by anything, therefore everyone in the instance, excluding maybe people with rank 10 mettle for story reasons, should be able to gather at the start and wait for the assault to launch. From there it'll be up to all the players in the zone how they want to split up and handle everything, with the content appropriately scaled to the number of players in the area. Everything else from then on will be the same, with personal rewards, including memories, even the ones from future relic steps you're not currently on, dropping from the personal chests, though the number of memories you need for each step may need to be increased accordingly. Also they should give us more rewards for Castrum other than coins and memories, maybe they can give us lockboxes and beef up the rewards to include some really nice things like the new hairstyle and new emotes that could potentially sell for a lot.

But that's just my two cents, Bozja is fun at times if you ask me, but the map design is uninteresting, the skirmishes themselves feel unimpactful and unrelated to the resistance other than "Hoooo evil empire gotta fight them," and there's really no reason the zones should be separated. They should make Bozja feel more like an actual battlefield that you can run around and help out in and less like a reskinned Stormblood fate zone

Originally Posted by Themarvin

¨Could they at least not had removed the Crystal Tower Raids form the equation, it is overplayed already by people lvling and wanting to skip anything that can get a little bit difficult to the masses ( with exception of WOD )

Yeah, this I can agree with. We really did not need to have this added into the mix when most people already run them too much already. If SE's concern was new players then it was a non issue to begin with.

Originally Posted by Aellae

You can't make content that is for a niche part of the community and then slap something onto it that a rather big part of the community likes - the relic.

The relic has always been aimed at the part of the community that likes grinding in order to obtain something and feel accomplished. It has never been intended to be for everyone, and neither it's enforced (I've never completed a single relic myself).

Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

So the equivalent of a Guild Wars 2 zone/map meta? I could dig it.

Ohh! Then I have to agree, that would be a very good idea! I don't dislike Bozja, but it's true it could be way better if it was more dynamic like the GW2 maps. I'm a big fan of how GW2 built its world, I feel it's unrivaled when it comes to MMORPGs; it's a bit sad that no other game has tried the same!

Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

So the equivalent of a Guild Wars 2 zone/map meta? I could dig it.

Literally what I was thinking tbh, GW2 has a lot of flaws but the maps are actually fun and even content from 1 or 2 expansions ago gets ran on the regular.