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    Listrella's Avatar
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    Astrella Riverstar
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Cirque-it View Post
    I LOVED the last build up!! I never complained about there not being a grind!
    you may not have, but a lot of other people did.
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    isnt it messed up that goblet is a housing area and not a tiny goblin
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    Dusk Himmel
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    i mean Void ark takes same amount of time to clear as Sycrus i haven't tried Rabanstre
    even less sometimes 13-15 minutes, 5 minute que tops for both
    potd also doesnt take too long either maybe farming exclusively fates nets you 1000 hours if unlucky since i am 7 crystals with 4 hours ish of fate time.

    it aint hard its tedious and not a hand out like first few steps which is nice but rates should be better in Bozja and second step should have been doable in Bozja.
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    Tristain Archambeau
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    it aint hard its tedious and not a hand out like first few steps which is nice but rates should be better in Bozja and second step should have been doable in Bozja.
    Agreed, that'd go some way in redressing the issues with it.
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    Vickii's Avatar
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    Elise Marie
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    Why should it be 50 percent and not 1 percent? Because you’ve been doing nerfed older relics? Which were also 1 percent to begin with too.

    What don’t you people understand, this isn’t a free weapon that every single player will have. It’s accessible to anyone sure, but that doesn’t mean you’ll have the time/patience for it or that every single player will get it.

    The relic has always been this way.
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    Vahlnir's Avatar
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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vickii View Post
    Why should it be 50 percent and not 1 percent? Because you’ve been doing nerfed older relics? Which were also 1 percent to begin with too.

    What don’t you people understand, this isn’t a free weapon that every single player will have. It’s accessible to anyone sure, but that doesn’t mean you’ll have the time/patience for it or that every single player will get it.

    The relic has always been this way.
    For the 2nd step of this relic I don't think the drop rate for the memories from Fates is 1%. If I were to guess...20 to 30%. I've done a little bit of Fate grinding between queues off and on since yesterday and I have managed to snag 3 of them from Fates alone. Even so, I think what people are upset about is not really having much other choice but to run old raids for the sake of efficiency, which I understand. With pre Stormblood relics there were multiple paths to completion almost every step of the way. It seemed like they had returned to that with Shadowbringers, at least a little bit, but they changed their tune apparently. Sure, the option exists to grind Bozja for the first step of this current grind, but is it really a choice? Not really, no. Is Fate grinding a viable way to get memories in the 2nd step? Maybe, but why spend time grinding them if the RNGesus is against you when you can spend 10-20 minutes and get one guaranteed from an old raid? I think it's more of an illusion of choice. Admittedly, an illusion of choice grinds my gears more than a complete lack of options. I like to just have things given to me straight, not this "well, you can do this BUT..." crap. I'll take a soul crushing grind over that any day of the week. Regardless, if I really pushed myself I could probably have this current relic done by next reset at my own pace, but it's clearly meant to be done casually. I'm not gonna drive myself completely nuts over it. A few runs of VA and Rabanastre a day is plenty.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 02-04-2021 at 10:40 AM.

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    Flan Vongola
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    Raiden
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    For the 2nd step of this relic I don't think the drop rate for the memories from Fates is 1%. If I were to guess...20 to 30%. I've done a little bit of Fate grinding between queues off and on since yesterday and I have managed to snag 3 of them from Fates alone. Even so, I think what people are upset about is not really having much other choice but to run old raids for the sake of efficiency, which I understand. With pre Stormblood relics there were multiple paths to completion almost every step of the way. It seemed like they had returned to that with Shadowbringers, at least a little bit, but they changed their tune apparently. Sure, the option exists to grind Bozja for the first step of this current grind, but is it really a choice? Not really, no. Is Fate grinding a viable way to get memories in the 2nd step? Maybe, but why spend time grinding them if the RNGesus is against you when you can spend 10-20 minutes and get one guaranteed from an old raid? I think it's more of an illusion of choice. Admittedly, an illusion of choice grinds my gears more than a complete lack of options. I like to just have things given to me straight, not this "well, you can do this BUT..." crap. I'll take a soul crushing grind over that any day of the week. Regardless, if I really pushed myself I could probably have this current relic done by next reset at my own pace, but it's clearly meant to be done casually. I'm not gonna drive myself completely nuts over it. A few runs of VA and Rabanastre a day is plenty.
    I dropped 1 every 10 fate, its the same as Atma farming. Plus its a one time only quest. I think the grind being either CT/Castrum and PotD/DR makes it more bearable.
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