Relic ShB grind needs a hotfix!

[xbahax92]

guess you forgot the Raid weekly quest series for the relic and the tomes required to complete these so you'll end up doing a lot more raids than 36 back then
also book phase for relics did cost 2000 tomes ,atma fates and 20 a9s was not enough light back when Anima relics were relevant

To be fair, the content was locked to level 50 back then. We had limited things to do beside coil and tomestone, less roulettes and primals to farm. Overall, not much to do.

[Daeriion_Aeradiir]

Funny... I dont remember needing to complete 36 raids for half a step.... even the Lux light farm stage was 20 runs of A9S tops....

No I disagree. this is WAY worse then ARR and HW

You must be thinking post-nerf. Pre-nerf Nexus light farming was infinitely worse than this lol.

in the nexus light farm, you needed 2000 light total, and the highest amount of light you could ever achieve in a single run was 16, newborn star from a CT raid on bonus. ( https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...t_information/ )

Which meant the absolute minimum runs you would need pre-nerf was 125 on bonus CT raid clears. 36 raid clears is chump change in comparison. Also even if you did every a9s on bonus, it was still 32 runs (2000 light / 64 light per Stalwart clear = 31.25) which is extremely close to the current grind anyway, also keeping in mind A9s was still on level content meaning you couldn't ultra zerg it like you can today, on top of the fact all light values have been doubled since then due to nerfs.

This grind is a pittance compared to grinds of old, considering how ridiculously fast you can do ST with a huge BLU pre-made. That being said, i do agree they should buff the CE drop rates to incentivize bozja. It's not like CE's rapid fire like crazy and you can be waiting a bit for the next one to show up sometimes. FATEs in stormblood areas -do- need to stay with super low drop rates though; if they were even remotely close to 50%, Mhachi & Ivalice would be pointless since you can do crazy more fates in the same time it takes to even complete a single Void Ark/Rabanastre, and its clear the super low drop rate on fates is meant to incentivize doing the old 24 mans.

[Sicno]

Funny... I dont remember needing to complete 36 raids for half a step.... even the Lux light farm stage was 20 runs of A9S tops....

No I disagree. this is WAY worse then ARR and HW

*Laughes in ARF and Umbrites*

[Arkevorkhat]

still not as bad as ARR or HW grind

Oh look, a wild non-sequitur appeared!

[Barristan]

You can get those memories outside of Bozja. And the Bitter Memories of Dying you can get from Dungeons (level 60, with the Anti-Tower being the fastest).


https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/w...nt_of_a_Memory

[Cirque-it]

You can get those memories outside of Bozja. And the Bitter Memories of Dying you can get from Dungeons (level 60, with the Anti-Tower being the fastest).


https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/w...nt_of_a_Memory

That the 485~500 steps. WE're talking about the 500~515 ilvl steps.. they are WAY worse then the 485 ilvl quests :-(

[Barristan]

Ohhhhhhhhhh. Bleh. Yeah. Haven't even started those. Thanks for the clarification!

[LisSquid]

Very thankful the relic is not good for my chosen job.
I didn't mind eureka, and I love BA. Something about grinding fates and CT again just sucks the will to participate out of me.

Why not ShB fates? Why not let us grind this new currency they added in the same expansion? Would be more helpful to assist the 71-80 crowd do fates than the 59-60/60-70 crowd (do people even level with fates at that level? Are we just window dressing in those zones for new players?)

[Cirque-it]

Very thankful the relic is not good for my chosen job.
I didn't mind eureka, and I love BA. Something about grinding fates and CT again just sucks the will to participate out of me.

Why not ShB fates? Why not let us grind this new currency they added in the same expansion? Would be more helpful to assist the 71-80 crowd do fates than the 59-60/60-70 crowd (do people even level with fates at that level? Are we just window dressing in those zones for new players?)

HAHAHA. Untill you said it I did not even think that could be a thing!!!
But yeah its gawdaweful... I hope they change it to be more like the 485 quests where you could get everything you needed from the Bozjan front... WITH a better drop rate!

[TroySoFab]

Yeah, I finished the final step in 2 days, and didn't even have to no life it. Not grindy enough, SE what were you thinking?