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    ElainaMason's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caimie_Tsukino View Post
    Nooooo! That is disheartening! I thought there are a few Expert Recipe guides on the internet, such as this one:
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...9vku-9LvA/edit
    and this one:
    https://attackofthefanboy.com/guides...n-restoration/

    Let's see if you find them helpful.

    Well, even though this is an easier version of the current Phase 4 Expert Recipes, it is still Expert Recipes after all. So you still need to know all your basics, i.e. you need to know nearly every button on your hotbar. Because to be fair, I consider the use of at least 23 different actions to tackle these recipes, including Reflect, Veneration, Intensive Syn, Observe, Focused Touch, Focused Syn, Rapid Syn, Final Appraisal, Trick of Trade, Basic Syn, Careful Syn, Innovation, Manipulation, Great Strides, Byregot's Blessing, Precise Touch, Basic Touch, Prudent Touch, Hasty Touch, Preparatory Touch, Patient Touch, Master's Mend, Careful Observation. I literally use this many skills to tackle them... and sometimes even more.

    I've been grinding Expert Recipes since Phase 2 till now to go after the Flying Boi mount. So many of us have been doing this for months, and it's easy for us to start forgetting that many people may have trouble with these Expert Recipes. And due to the recent Phase 4 Expert Recipes being as hard as 81447 quality, we have to resort to some risky rotations, and so it has become more of an RNG game... and so a lot of us start saying "these recipes are just dependent on RNG!" (especially when Pliant is crucial to success). But to be fair, I truly believe that the execution of Expert Recipes still require a significant amount of skill from the player. We have to know many different crafting actions by heart, and able to apply them all in different situations. That is a kind of skill that not every all-80 player has (especially when leveling is soooo easy now, which made everyone "all-80" DoH).
    The Problem ist that I'm playing in German Client. My english is not really bad but all those special words such as skills are bad to translate in a guide without getting out of context.

    But I will try with macro, seems fair for me to just collect more stuff
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElainaMason View Post
    I thought I could at least finish 1 oder 2 of those crafting tools. But I never did those expert crafts and I was hoping it would be easier than it is for me.
    I tried to find some information and explanations in german but there is nothing.
    So I think I will just give up here although I like the shiny stuff for those tools.
    Don't forget the rating threshold is pretty low on these. You'll still get at least 1 delicate part with a 2500 rating, which can be achieved through a macro. It means making 60 items instead of 20 to get all the needed parts but it can be done.

    I'm sure someone else could come up with something much better but this will get you to minimum rating regardless of conditions.
    Craftsmanship 2620 (min required)
    Control 2475
    CP 544
    NQ Blood Bouillaibaisse + HQ Cunning Syrup

    /ac "Muscle Memory" <wait.3>
    /ac Manipulation <wait.2>
    /ac Veneration <wait.2>
    /ac "Waste Not" <wait.2>
    /ac Groundwork <wait.3>
    /ac Groundwork <wait.3>
    /ac Groundwork <wait.3>
    /ac "Final Appraisal" <wait.2> [note: not needed if Craftsmanship is 2620-2645, is needed over 2645]
    /ac Groundwork <wait.3>
    /ac "Inner Quiet" <wait.2>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac Manipulation <wait.2>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Standard Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac Innovation <wait.2>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Standard Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Standard Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac Innovation <wait.2>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Synthesis" <wait.3>

    I would still strongly encourage you to practice doing the recipes on your own so you learn how to make use of the conditions to increase your rating, reduce the number of items you'll need to make and have a better understanding of how crafting works in general.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 02-04-2021 at 08:16 AM.

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    Next on the list: make expert recipe crafts sellable on market!
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    Wait a second, the CUL oven doesn't even glow but the ALC.. uh.. whatchamacallit does?



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    Last edited by TW-Luna; 02-04-2021 at 02:27 PM.

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    Tested the CRP one too and it has no glow either. C'moooon Square...
    For as much as we put into these to A) not even have a tool that is bar none better than the rest but also B) this level of inconsistency, just disappointing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TW-Luna View Post
    Tested the CRP one too and it has no glow either. C'moooon Square...
    For as much as we put into these to A) not even have a tool that is bar none better than the rest but also B) this level of inconsistency, just disappointing.

    I don't understand... how is this Carpenter saw not a glow? It seems to be a glamorous glow to me!
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    “The best crafter is not the one with the best stats, but the one who makes the best use of one’s stats” – By Caimie Tsukino

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    Quote Originally Posted by TW-Luna View Post
    Tested the CRP one too and it has no glow either. C'moooon Square...
    For as much as we put into these to A) not even have a tool that is bar none better than the rest but also B) this level of inconsistency, just disappointing.

    The tools (alembics, saws, hammers, etc.) are glowing. The accessories displayed with the tools (the sawhorses, cookstove, anvil, etc.) aren't.

    It does make sense even if it's not what you were hoping for.
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    isnt it messed up that goblet is a housing area and not a tiny goblin
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    all have a dragoon/dragon aesthetic to there glow which is a very nice touch
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    The alchemist forge glows though, that's what I'm saying. It also looks quite nice and impressive on ALC, but none of the other crafting tables seem to glow for the other crafters. It's inconsistent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TW-Luna View Post
    The alchemist forge glows though, that's what I'm saying. It also looks quite nice and impressive on ALC, but none of the other crafting tables seem to glow for the other crafters. It's inconsistent.
    But the alembic is the tool, not the accessory. It's actually very consistent.

    Edit: I wonder if you're getting confused about what an alembic is. It is the "forge" - a distilling apparatus and not something an alchemist can hold in one hand.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 02-06-2021 at 05:38 AM.

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