Thread: Bozja is extremely disappointing (especially the 5.45 update)

I am about burnt out of the game entirely. The relic grind has left me bored and completely uninterested in continuing with Bozja. The relic weapons are largely not worth the effort, even if you like the look of them. It's a complete waste of time, since there are better alternatives available. Savage DR may as well be dead on arrival, both augmented armor variants are too tedious too get, but not only that worthless. Just as there are better alternatives for the relic weapons available, there are better alternatives for the armor. The only thing the second augmented set has going for it is that you can dye it.

DR takes too long on average for such a small chance of reward. For the most part only offering relic progress - and as I have already gone over there are better alternatives to said weapons. Most lost actions may as well be non-existent they have no real purpose, outside of perhaps duels or savage DR (DOA). Duels as a system are implemented horribly leaving both new and old players alike unhappy. FATEs are really only useful for leveling, both for Bozja and players combat classes. Leaving veteran players, players who are R15 mettle, or have all their combat classes at 80 no reason to do these. CEs are the same, but the rewarded lockboxes also hold largely garbage, with a tiny chance of reward - just like DR.

Both Castrum and DR will be dead content sooner than later, as soon as players are sick of or done with their relic grind. Most definitely leading up to EW. There will be no real reason to ever come back here, as it stands. Unfortunately, SE seems to be continuing to double down on these design philosophies as more updates for Bozja come out. The content they make is not made to last, and largely feels like cheap padding.

In conclusion, in my opinion, Bozja as a whole was completely bungled. Great ideas on paper, but time and time again, poor implementation after poor implementation. Leaving players wanting.

The relic content is bad not because of how easy or hard the grind is, but because it's just so restrictive on how you can advance it.

Unless you're prepared to basically lose your sanity, assuming you have sanity to lose, you'll only get 1 weapon for 1 class. Relics that don't take too much work like the 485-500 steps are repeatable because they're not that difficult or time consuming even though they're restrictive, and the current nerfed (and I guess to a degree pre-nerf) HW relics are repeatable not so much because they're short, but because for the most part you can passively gather materials for a new weapon through playing normally and doing dailies.

The Bozja relic is neither, being both restrictive and grindy, albeit not as grindy as the ARR and HW relics, but running Crystal Tower and Delubrum 15 times is just plain boring and tedious for something you can easily replace by progging Emerald weapon for an hour or clearing E12 7 weeks in a row and then saving 1000 tomes.

Originally Posted by Amnmaat

Not everyone has to do grindy relics, just like not everyone has to get quick but "difficult" extreme weapons.
Different systems for different people.

It's more about the lack of options for progressing the relic, doing Delubrum 15 times is tedious because you can't snore through it like CT because of the doom mechanic, which is fine IMO, but why then do we need to do it 15 times instead of 5 or 6?

The CT raids step isn't as bad because you can just put Netflix on in the background as you snore through Syrcus, but they really need to buff CE drop rates (I forget if you can get it from skirmishes too) so people who don't want to snore through level synced content have another option that takes more brain power but ultimately less time.

IMO they really need to rethink the steps and either add more options or reduce the grind on our current options, making us run the same tedious raid 15 times is just an obvious attempt at trying to keep their content relevant while avoiding putting any thought about how to actually entice players into doing it like they did with pre-buff Castrum

Originally Posted by Dogempire

It's more about the lack of options for progressing the relic, doing Delubrum 15 times is tedious because you can't snore through it like CT because of the doom mechanic, which is fine IMO, but why then do we need to do it 15 times instead of 5 or 6?

The CT raids step isn't as bad because you can just put Netflix on in the background as you snore through Syrcus, but they really need to buff CE drop rates (I forget if you can get it from skirmishes too) so people who don't want to snore through level synced content have another option that takes more brain power but ultimately less time.

IMO they really need to rethink the steps and either add more options or reduce the grind on our current options, making us run the same tedious raid 15 times is just an obvious attempt at trying to keep their content relevant while avoiding putting any thought about how to actually entice players into doing it like they did with pre-buff Castrum

With how grindy this step has been I really hope that the last one(s) are going to be a victory lap of sorts.

Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

The choices are probably going to be between doing the Nier raids or whatever the finale for Save The Queen will be.

If that ends up being the case, it'll be the first time they actually incentivized content from this expansion beyond Bozja. Kind of says a lot when Heavensward literally gave you the option to do just about everything... in Heavensward.