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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsiron View Post
    For playing a game about idealism and the power of friendship and community, y'all are shockingly conservative...
    How are those universal concepts tied to anyone singular political ideology and across all in their own forms?
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    I don’t really think changing lyse’s character design would make her necessary for the plot. She should’ve died at the escape of 2.x so we could find more out about her after we already lost her, then put her remains to rest in ala mhigo after its liberation.

    She would’ve been more useful to the plot as a corpse.
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    Careful, don't want to cut yourself on all that edge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Careful, don't want to cut yourself on all that edge.
    No edge at all. Dead lyse doing the narration for her memories of stormblood would have been 237% cooler than what we got.

    Maybe we could have found and read through her sister’s journal at parts, too, since she’s always seemed more interesting than lyse.
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    Last edited by van_arn; 08-12-2021 at 08:22 PM.

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    I'd always taken Ala Mhigan skin tones being dark a lot as being a hamfisted way of showing that people who live in the region bake in the sun, day in and day out. The skin tone differences reflect who spends more time doing manual labor outside. In general, the older the Ala Mhigan, the darker their skin. I think this way, mostly, due to the fact that their facial structures are limited by video game graphics, and they all have the same bone structure. Of course, I don't actually care about their skin color but their characterization.

    Lyse to this point spent her toddler years in Ala Mhigo not doing any work, and then was spirited away from the region. Spending her time in Sharlayan, masked up, and then in the Black Shroud. Not exactly sun heavy areas.

    If you think I'm off base, consider this article...

    "Blackfishing"

    For those of you who don't care to read it, basically it's an article talking about how people who excessively tan are praised in the modern era for having dark skin, and basically that white people shouldn't get a tan because it "devalues the struggles of people of color." Granted they're talking about excessive sun exposure, sprays, and tanning bed year round sorts of tans, but I'm just trying to illustrate that it's a real thing in the real world that tanned white people can be and are mistaken for not being white.

    If a sun soaked for years individual has a kid, then said kid won't be born with a tan. The more you know.

    They even used similar logic to explain why Y'shtola's skin got a shade paler across expansions, "Oh uhh, she's spent less time in the sun."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
    I'd always taken Ala Mhigan skin tones being dark a lot as being a hamfisted way of showing that people who live in the region bake in the sun, day in and day out. The skin tone differences reflect who spends more time doing manual labor outside. In general, the older the Ala Mhigan, the darker their skin. I think this way, mostly, due to the fact that their facial structures are limited by video game graphics, and they all have the same bone structure. Of course, I don't actually care about their skin color but their characterization.

    Lyse to this point spent her toddler years in Ala Mhigo not doing any work, and then was spirited away from the region. Spending her time in Sharlayan, masked up, and then in the Black Shroud. Not exactly sun heavy areas.

    If you think I'm off base, consider this article...

    "Blackfishing"

    For those of you who don't care to read it, basically it's an article talking about how people who excessively tan are praised in the modern era for having dark skin, and basically that white people shouldn't get a tan because it "devalues the struggles of people of color." Granted they're talking about excessive sun exposure, sprays, and tanning bed year round sorts of tans, but I'm just trying to illustrate that it's a real thing in the real world that tanned white people can be and are mistaken for not being white.

    If a sun soaked for years individual has a kid, then said kid won't be born with a tan. The more you know.

    They even used similar logic to explain why Y'shtola's skin got a shade paler across expansions, "Oh uhh, she's spent less time in the sun."
    There was a time when being pale was considered a mark of wealth and station, as you didn't have to spend time outside working. Same thing with obesity, as only rich people could afford to get fat. In "Show White" when the evil witch asks the mirror "who is the fairest of them all" shes not talking about her looks, but her skin complexion. That's why she's called "Snow White" to fooking begin with.
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