Eureka Hydatos Weapons in 2021 Are Too Difficult To Obtain

[KoyaMusa]

As the title mentioned, this post is solely about the state of obtaining weapons in Eureka Hydatos, not any other aspect of the instance.

I am someone who likes to go back to clear older achievements and relics, but Eureka Hydatos in its current state is not conducive to completing weapons. Actively entering Hydatos in my spare time consistently (and during lulls in content, its not like I expect people to be rushing to do it now), as well as putting in all of my time in the instance to spawn Notorious Monsters, I feel as if I am making no progress. Most of my time spent in Eureka is predominantly solo with only a small amount of people in the instance, and those people are predominantly focused on obtaining Bunny rewards.

Adding the Echo is simply not enough for Hydatos, NMs still take an exceptionally long time to spawn, and the crystal gain is very low. Furthermore, Hydatos weapons are physically impossible to complete solo, as Provenance Watcher scales are not obtainable via exchanging Hydatos Crystals.

I know Eureka adjustments are a low priority to the developers as it is old content, but I think all the zones excluding Hydatos are at least doable with a respectable amount of effort. I would suggest some at least from my perspective some simple changes. Significantly increase Crystal drop amounts, add exchange for Provenance Watcher scales for Crystals, and adjust the amount of monsters needed to kill for Notorious Monsters to spawn.

That or just let me exchange the items for poetics.

[Abyss_me]

Maybe it should be placed in duty finder for easy access. Maybe add some bonus for FATE completion.

[Thmas]

Daily Roulette, "Monster Killers" perhaps unlocked by some interesting new quest line. Earn title "reenforcements" and be on call when the big baddies need to be taken down. Open world / Hunts, etc. Eureka/Bozan NMs if needed there.

[Kaurhz]

Oh wow! Eureka got hit this bad? In honesty, it'll likely be more populated when there's a significant lul of content, but for the time being, people are focused predominantly on getting the relics from this expansion.

Though, I think they should either downscale the mobs more so that solo spawning stuff is more feasible, particularly with the higher level NMs. Or just change the spawn conditions so they alternate more frequently, or have a forced spawn timer. I can at least say just slapping echo on it alone and calling it a day is very sloppy.

[Hasrat]

Not really understanding your point about scales. It's time consuming, but not especially difficult, to spawn PW on your own. He's got no special spawn conditions, unlike every other end-zone boss.

[hobostew]

Spawning him when next to no one is in the instance is absurdly time consuming and that assumes the person is even able to solo the elevel 65 scorpions which can be a doozy. The claws should absolutely be on the vendor.

[Wissp]

Spawning him when next to no one is in the instance is absurdly time consuming and that assumes the person is even able to solo the elevel 65 scorpions which can be a doozy. The claws should absolutely be on the vendor.

As someone who has a full set of elemental armor and weapon, I have tried to solo the highest levels of all the Eureka instances. With Hydatos, the highest I could do solo as a healer was level 63. Level 64 and 65 hit wayyyyy too hard to heal through it, even with the elemental bonuses. Maybe a pally could do it with their healing abilities. No WAY a DPS could, the damage is too great.

Hell, in Pryos the level 55 bloodmoths were a bitch to kill as a healer solo.

[kidalutz]

The year has nothing to do with it. There is nothing more annoying then someone that goes its such and such a year then complaints it cheapens the criticism and makes the entire point if there was one lesser.

That said there is a reason why I will never have this or last expansions relic weapons I simply dont care to do either one of those contents and would rather grind dungeons that are infinitely more enjoyable.

[Aniya_Estlihn]

This is one of the reasons why I keep saying that exploratory content like Eureka and Bozja is not a sustainable thing, nor is locking relics behind a dedicated zone like this. In the moment, if you can catch the initial wave of people doing it at release, it's fine but even Anemos was difficult for people to get into after Pyros was released. We're starting to see some of that fall off already with Bozja too, as people simply aren't able to get into Castrum half the time because no one does it after the first time.

Relics don't need dedicated zones.

[Undeadfire]

As someone who has a full set of elemental armor and weapon, I have tried to solo the highest levels of all the Eureka instances. With Hydatos, the highest I could do solo as a healer was level 63. Level 64 and 65 hit wayyyyy too hard to heal through it, even with the elemental bonuses. Maybe a pally could do it with their healing abilities. No WAY a DPS could, the damage is too great.

Hell, in Pryos the level 55 bloodmoths were a bitch to kill as a healer solo.

Tank side it's a walk in the park, pretty easy to kill with Physeos/+2 Elemental/Kirin.