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  1. #1
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    Swording509's Avatar
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    Freyia Reign
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    Miner Lv 80

    Dungeon/Trial Guides to help beginners

    Hello all

    I have started a Youtube channel that aims to help new players with Dungeons and Trials in very easy quick to follow guides.

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBy...zgbMZNrYBMINzw

    Please like and subscribe, and I hope this helps any newcomers

    My videos will start to show a difficulty rating too, so you can decide if you want to attempt the dungeon or trial or not

    Hope this helps!
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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    I watched some of your videos and I have to suggest maybe just playing the game for a while and not worrying about writing guides. There is no shortage of guide material for this game, and your videos so far, while thorough, often overlook common practices and expectations that you don't seem to have internalized yet.

    I almost said, "Ifrit doesn't need a guide." But as it turns out, you've tanked the boss in an unconventional postion, and you've made the rookie mistake of attacking the nail as a tank. It's customary to run through a boss and tank them so that they're facing the wall. It seems like you often--not always, but often--tank bosses without running all the way through them. This is a habit that you should replace ASAP.

    As for the nail, while you probably won't get the party killed in this specific case, you should let the party deal with adds if the boss has a cleave. In later fights, trying to help with adds can get the entire party one-shotted. When making guides, it's important to note when a boss has a cleave and encourage tanks not to help with adds if so.

    People who feel compelled to open all the doors will appreciate the thoroughness of your Qarn and Darkhold guides, but when running with a random party, people often skip optional doors. In Qarn, it's even common practice to skip liberating the tablets all together; you can open the final boss door without any of them.

    In Darkhold, the entire trash corridor from entrance to first boss can be tanked in the purple light just before the boss door. Since the purple light grants 90% damage reduction, the healer should have no problem keeping you alive while you rotate cooldowns. Whether you yourself like or dislike this strategy, it's worth mentioning so that people aren't surprised when the tank just pulls the entire dungeon up to the first boss.

    Thorough is fine when someone is specifically looking for it. However, this game's community tends to encourage expedience over exploration. To give them a thorough guide without also acknowledging community conventions may confuse people when their party skips unnecessary steps in a run.

    A minor style note: your frequent use of the phrases "and eventually [the boss] will fall" or "and [the boss] will soon fall" is quite conspicuous (as in, I can't remember a single boss that you didn't use those exact words on). Perhaps consider a variety of creative expressions to indicate victory so as not to use the same one on every boss fight in every video.
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    Last edited by Rongway; 01-28-2021 at 10:48 AM.

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    Hey thanks for the feedback!

    I am learning a lot whilst doing these videos and hopefully all of that will become more and more apparent with each and every video

    The boss will fall comments are done on purpose, but I can certainly look into some variety

    Thanks for the comments, hope you enjoy the future videos
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    King Canadane
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    Another note on the Ifrit fight, which is the only video I checked out so far.
    You mention to keep him central, and I see your reasoning for this.
    But if you keep him towards the wall (basically where he stands before you engage him) facing the wall, you won't be knocked back at all. This helps you keep your uptime on the boss. It also reduces the total arena space his knockback takes up, freeing up more space to dodge other mechanics. I'm not sure if you plan to cover the 8 man versions of his fight, but this practice is good for these later versions of his fight which has a lot more going on.

    Don't let this discourage you from helping others. But like Rongway said, it might be best to learn the current norms and expectations. I look forward to seeing how your guides evolve over time!
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