Lamia NN: Repeated Harassments by One Player

[JuliusRath]

I want to start by saying that this is not a witch hunt and is by no means a call to seek out this player and harass them, or worse, give them the attention they obviously seek. I am only bringing up this issue because of the repeated failures to have this person banned from the NN through their accounts. I will not list names, but mentors, returners and sprouts alike will know this person with even just this mention. I will say this is the only attention I will give them, and I encourage other people to share this thread with those who may not be aware of the situation. The Novice Network is a flawed system that we unfortunately have to deal with.

I encourage you read this in it's entirety.

I want to address the underlining issues with this singular individual through my first hand experience. Though others will say that this individual's accounts and behavior extend back far beyond the recent issues I can only go based off my own certainties. This person has multiple character spanning over, at least, 2 ffxiv accounts. When they are warned and eventually banned from NN chat they evade the ban and continue their behavior on another character/account. They bring up topics that multiple mentors ask them to drop and REPEATEDLY call attention to those individuals to the point of flooding chat with spam. Not only that, they have delved into topics that make people generally uncomfortable. A few examples:

1. Baiting people and purposely using language to incite arguments.
2. Transphobia, including shutting out/bullying a trans sprout who expressed concern in NN chat.
3. Xenophobia and racism, often by baiting with use of anti-semitic language.
4. Targeted harassment against individuals, mostly mentors that ban them from NN.
5. Evading bans and purposely being unpleasant.
6. Spreading conspiracy theories and falsities in the attempt to spread misinformation.

Often times this person is not overt and blatant in their harassment, they are very obviously aware of the line they need to tread to avoid outright being banned/suspended from the game. This behavior is common in these types of individuals and while we should be understanding to each persons possible mental issues and emotional states we should not tolerate deliberate harassments and allow even repeated questionable behavior to go unchecked.

Until something can be further resolved I encourage mentors and others to not engage this person and merely NN ban them if you personally feel they have overstepped what you deem as acceptable. By engaging in them you invite this to the discussion and, in turn, give them what they seek. This may humor you, but think of others in chat that may see this as stressful or uncomfortable. I have had sprouts leave NN chat over this person, some even DM me about it, this is not what NN should be used for and we should strive to make it a safe and helpful forum that expresses positivity to this game and it's community.

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[JuliusRath]

To the moderators that see this, I was asked to post feedback here on the flawed system that is the Novice Network chat. Those that report repeated offenders like this are asked to simply blacklist them in game, and while that offers a protection to that one individual it does not to the others that reside in that forum, nor does it help block players entirely, especially in this case where the list of alts extends beyond even 8. By blacklisting you are asking us to ignore someone we are meant to moderate and handle on a player by player basis. We aren't Game Moderators but as mentors we are supposed to take on the responsibility of taking care of the Novice Network chat. We desperately need a better way to handle this particular issue because it's been going on for MONTHS and we are still stuck at square one.

PS-I was encouraged by an in game GM to post this in the forums and raise awareness to it. Please do not say it's against ToS, because it's not.

Thank you all for your time in regards to educating yourself on this issue. I hope you have a wonderful day/evening/night.

[OvertonWindow]

What are the names of the players alts so that we can properly keep ourselves safe from this uncanny threat?

[Elazul30]

Irony at its finest right here

[JuliusRath]

Bumping this because it is still relevant to this day. Go figure.

[ICountFrom0]

Yha, guy actually drove an entire FC of my friends off of the server, they abandoned those alts and started again elsewhere.

The GM's keep banning accounts, and the guy keeps making replacements.

Does he still have 2 or 3 mentor accounts that he uses to kick any mentor that kicks more then one or two of his alts?

[JuliusRath]

First of all, I'm sorry that they felt the need to leave. It goes into a lot of the problem we face with this. It frustrates both sprouts and mentors, and pushes away new players or returning players from seeking help in the community chat specifically made for just that. I hope they are having fun with the game in their new home.

I personally haven't confirmed the mentor account. But I wouldn't put it past him. We've had sympathizers, or people that aren't in the loop kick mentors. It's unfortunate because the system is designed to punish them more than the harasser.

[CritiZin]

First of all, I'm sorry that they felt the need to leave. It goes into a lot of the problem we face with this. It frustrates both sprouts and mentors, and pushes away new players or returning players from seeking help in the community chat specifically made for just that. I hope they are having fun with the game in their new home.

I personally haven't confirmed the mentor account. But I wouldn't put it past him. We've had sympathizers, or people that aren't in the loop kick mentors. It's unfortunate because the system is designed to punish them more than the harasser.

I kick this guy from the NN on sight, even if he wasnt a total toxic troll with his words, his usernames are bad enough to warrant kicks... Sadly it usually ends up with another mentor kicking me. tbh i think im almost done with this nonsense id rather just pay the money and go play on another server whos NN isnt a total cesspool. This guys bad but i can deal with him by kicking him on sight, But Lamia honestly has some of the lowest quality mentors i've ever seen sad really.

[ICountFrom0]

I kick this guy from the NN on sight, even if he wasnt a total toxic troll with his words, his usernames are bad enough to warrant kicks... Sadly it usually ends up with another mentor kicking me. tbh i think im almost done with this nonsense id rather just pay the money and go play on another server whos NN isnt a total cesspool. This guys bad but i can deal with him by kicking him on sight, But Lamia honestly has some of the lowest quality mentors i've ever seen sad really.

That mentor that kicks you, well, he claims it's his girlfriend, but it's pretty sure just another set of bots that just happened to jump through the mentor hoops, notice that most of the time it's an account that has never said anything the entire time?

[CritiZin]

That mentor that kicks you, well, he claims it's his girlfriend, but it's pretty sure just another set of bots that just happened to jump through the mentor hoops, notice that most of the time it's an account that has never said anything the entire time?

10000% this guy doesn't have a girlfriend. i have written down all the mentors that have kicked me after spam kicking him one was from another world server that left instantly after kicking me, another one is just one of those low quality mentors i was talking about and then ya the latest one is the one im assuming he said was his GF. tbh i might just start kicking those people on sight too.