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  1. #41
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    Elizabetha Whitelocke
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    Hyperion
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    Bard Lv 100
    I cast Resurrection on this thread because I started playing about six months ago. I have just learned how inadequate this system is.

    I keep wondering what kind of horrible code must be the server architecture... this game seems to bump into an invisible "CAN'T" in the oddest of places. My gut tells me the server was never, ever meant to handle the number of players that exist AND it was never coded to be easily scalable.

    Shame. Shame. Shame.

    I wasn't even a *good* programmer and I can smell cut corners so often in this game. Not on the client end. It's pretty tight (aside from the infernal fighting of console UI conventions). But the servers absolutely stink of "not good enough".

    I mean, if I were being a complete hack, and didn't want to facilitate a house per player, I'd write a system similar to what's in place.

    They tried to apply an 80/20 rule, but they had the ratio backwards in terms of demand.

    Ultimately, it doesn't matter, but it IS frustrating to not be able to access an entire avenue of gaming expression because I started in 2021. And no... a FC apartment isn't good enough. It's not mine. I cannot get a free standing house or my own, unaffiliated apartment. It's a game feature that I cannot access or use.

    That is not a good feeling.
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  2. #42
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabetha View Post
    I cast Resurrection on this thread because I started playing about six months ago. I have just learned how inadequate this system is.

    I keep wondering what kind of horrible code must be the server architecture... this game seems to bump into an invisible "CAN'T" in the oddest of places. My gut tells me the server was never, ever meant to handle the number of players that exist AND it was never coded to be easily scalable.

    Shame. Shame. Shame.

    I wasn't even a *good* programmer and I can smell cut corners so often in this game. Not on the client end. It's pretty tight (aside from the infernal fighting of console UI conventions). But the servers absolutely stink of "not good enough".

    I mean, if I were being a complete hack, and didn't want to facilitate a house per player, I'd write a system similar to what's in place.

    They tried to apply an 80/20 rule, but they had the ratio backwards in terms of demand.

    Ultimately, it doesn't matter, but it IS frustrating to not be able to access an entire avenue of gaming expression because I started in 2021. And no... a FC apartment isn't good enough. It's not mine. I cannot get a free standing house or my own, unaffiliated apartment. It's a game feature that I cannot access or use.

    That is not a good feeling.
    It's not the code that's the problem here.

    It's the supply. No matter how much players want to dance around it and talk about ways to mix up the purchase system, housing here will always be substandard because SE will not adequately address the supply issue.

    I do wish you luck when Ishgard housing opens in the next patch cycle. I hope you are finally able to get a house so you get a chance to fully participate in the content.

    You are incorrect though when you say you cannot get your own apartment. You can (unless you're on Balmung). I even popped on my Primal alt just now to make sure I could find available apartments on Hyperion and found several as soon as I popped into a random LB ward. All it takes is obtaining the rank of Second Lieutenant with your Grand Company (very easy to do with a character over level 60) and 500,000 gil. While apartments lack a couple of the features of houses, they are still a foot in the door when it comes to having access to housing.
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  3. #43
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    Aaliza Rysta
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    The difference is that if you don't engage with loot boxes you don't get the loot.
    Here, there are many ways to approach getting a house other than clicking a placard instead of sleeping.
    Choosing to not click for hours doesn't lock you out of the content the way choosing to not buying a loot box does.
    How does one get a house in this game without clicking on a placard for hours? Genuinely curious.
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  4. #44
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    Elizabetha Whitelocke
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    Thanks.

    I'm probably just going to give up on houses. I had a FC apartment but it wasn't large enough once I "got it" and began really constructing neat spaces. I won't keep an apt attached to a FC. I don't want to feel chained to a FC because I want player housing. So I'll walk away from it.

    I'm simply frustrated because once I start appraising parts of a game as "oh that's not for me, that's for someone else", that game doesn't mean as much to me and it's easy to just...
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  5. #45
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    Altria Pendragons
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaran View Post
    How does one get a house in this game without clicking on a placard for hours? Genuinely curious.
    Most of get our at every new ward release
    Sleep then wake up before sever is back up
    Paste password and get into Q
    Never go for so called dream plot
    Plan our route to our plot of choice
    Park toon not inside major city and practice our travel speed
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  6. #46
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Well now instead of clicking on plaqards, you get to roll the dice in a lottery, 1 entry for you, and 1000 entries for a botter.
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  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    Well now instead of clicking on plaqards, you get to roll the dice in a lottery, 1 entry for you, and 1000 entries for a botter.
    Did you confuse with script allowing character to multi click with an illegal intrusion of SE network.?
    They are not the same.
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  8. #48
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    Well now instead of clicking on plaqards, you get to roll the dice in a lottery, 1 entry for you, and 1000 entries for a botter.
    Probably should put your emotions aside and think the process through based on what information SE has shared so far regarding the lottery.

    It's one entry per lottery period per account. I doubt anyone is going to buy 1,000 game licenses (and keep paying a monthly subscription fee on each account)just for the sake of maybe being able to buy a house. That's USD20,000 up front then an additional USD15,000 a month (or a total of USD 200,000 over the course of one year).

    No doubt there will be a few players with multiple service accounts trying to purchase but they will not be able to stack the odds in their favor against the large number of players trying to buy. If there are 1000 different entries in a lottery for a plot, having 10 of those entries still means 990 chances to lose.
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Probably should put your emotions aside and think the process through based on what information SE has shared so far regarding the lottery.

    It's one entry per lottery period per account. I doubt anyone is going to buy 1,000 game licenses (and keep paying a monthly subscription fee on each account)just for the sake of maybe being able to buy a house. That's USD20,000 up front then an additional USD15,000 a month (or a total of USD 200,000 over the course of one year).

    No doubt there will be a few players with multiple service accounts trying to purchase but they will not be able to stack the odds in their favor against the large number of players trying to buy. If there are 1000 different entries in a lottery for a plot, having 10 of those entries still means 990 chances to lose.
    Nothing a little RMT cash can't fix. I agree 1000 is an exageration. But if you think people aren't making profit, more than enough to pay for the game multiple times over with RMT bullshit I don't know what to tell you.
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  10. #50
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    Reopard Will
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaran View Post
    How does one get a house in this game without clicking on a placard for hours? Genuinely curious.
    I got mine literally with 2 clicks on a placard when the new wards opened up back in 5.3. Mind you I was on a 400+ queue before I was able to get in and it was pretty much a ghost town still when I got into the ward. Just plan ahead and play smart when the new wards come out
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