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  1. #131
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlitzAceRush View Post
    You'll find most aren't against it in general (though some are) but more against the cost, everything takes time and resources, personally I'd be totally fine with this, but if it cost less new glamor? That's where I'd rather they didn't if that was the case.
    There's also the argument of they'd likely just make one design going forwards, you wouldn't get pants that turn into skirts or skirts that turn into pants, you'd get a skirt or pair of pants and just have to hope it's the version you want while the others are out of luck.
    I'd personally prefer more thought out glamours, worked on with both bodies in mind, but with more space in between releasing them. And I'm not against these glamours being mogstation-only items. I'd gladly pay $36 for both versions of items if I could *wear* both versions, and I'd gladly wait as well. Though I understand that I *personally* am in the minority when it comes to that amount of patience.

    I just don't understand the "morally righteous" people who claim that it's a perversion and emasculating/defeminizing. Like...

    it's a wip but this is metal as heck. i'd pay for a fantasia if i could wear all the mog station dresses as a hrothgar.
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    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

  2. #132
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Pants are a lie, only the maid outfit is truth. Though I will say the male Vest from the Valentin event should have been unisex. Or was it? I was not playing during that time.
    It was not unisex. To my annoyance. Because I don't care for the dress and really liked the vest... :/

    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    The other thing is that lady pants are very much designed with a female flair. It is very easy to differentiate between pants for males and pants for females. Like dresses, they are designed in a way that accentuates their features. They are usually more form fitting, and enhance the shape of the legs and the bum. Male pants are almost always strictly utilitarian.
    If by "utilitarian" you mean "actually have functional pockets", I must reluctantly (and somewhat bitterly) agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer
    The healer main's struggle for pants is both real, and unending. Be strong, sister. #GiveUsMorePants2k20 #HealersNotRevealers #RandomOtherSleepDeprivedHashtagsHere
    I aim to make my posts engaging and entertaining, even when you might not agree with me. And failing that, I'll just be very, VERY wordy.

  3. #133
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    Even better: Let us use glamour plate anywere in the game!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer View Post
    It was not unisex. To my annoyance. Because I don't care for the dress and really liked the vest... :/



    If by "utilitarian" you mean "actually have functional pockets", I must reluctantly (and somewhat bitterly) agree.
    That vest did look clean. Going to be a must buy for me it pops up on Mogshop.
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  5. #135
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlitzAceRush View Post
    You'll find most aren't against it in general (though some are) but more against the cost, everything takes time and resources, personally I'd be totally fine with this, but if it cost less new glamor? That's where I'd rather they didn't if that was the case.
    Hm, technically the design cost is less... While you having to re-outfit to the new unlocked gender, you don't have to come up with things prior to that like concept art, textures, 3D meshes... Which might be more time consuming. In the end, XIV doesn't have that much of available races, so the overall cost might be less.

    Also it's always a gamble... The new glam maybe wouldn't suit your tastes, which personally to me is most of the cases.
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  6. #136
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    Give me mogstation pants. Give me the ability to be a male character and wear mogstation dresses. Give me both! >:O

    On a serious note though, I'm done talking with certain people in this thread, the leaps and bounds they make to justify themselves is insane. Give me mogstation pants. Give me the ability to be a male character and wear mogstation dresses. Give me both! >:O

    I wanna be a hrothgar wearing beautiful dresses. >:O
    There are already plenty of pants in-game for females to wear, I supplied alternatives previously in the thread. As for dresses, there are already a handful of female clothing options for males to wear. I have seen hrothgar running around in them before, and I suspect they will add more over time. You can do all this without spending a dollar on their mogstation!
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  7. #137
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    There are already plenty of pants in-game for females to wear, I supplied alternatives previously in the thread. As for dresses, there are already a handful of female clothing options for males to wear. I have seen hrothgar running around in them before, and I suspect they will add more over time. You can do all this without spending a dollar on their mogstation!
    To be fair theres a lot of pants that I personally like that I can't wear, because they just poof into mini-skirts with or without thigh highs, or short shorts (with or without thigh highs). It's fun playing "will it change" on the marketboard when figuring out glams and seeing what looks like a pair of pants that'd work with my fit, only for it to shift into a weird pair of shorts. (/s >:/ it isn't fun at all)

    On the ftm clothing, I like that there are that handful! I'd just wish to see more, and I along with a lot of others would pay for the options. there's a lot of pretty dresses that i wish i could wear as a hrothgar or maleroe that i can't, and if they added even a few more i'd consider switching or making a maleroe alt, and if they were mogstation exclus i'd even buy.

    though i'm glad they're slowly rolling out more, that's a HUGE step in the right direction and is something that i'm sure they could just as easily stick their feet in the mud and go "you got something, that's it" over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

  8. #138
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    Just saying. I play lots of games with unisex gear that swings from high femme to very masculine, with so many threads in between. People just wear what they want, and never seen a lack of either option.

    Gender locked gear is very old school gaming from a purely design standpoint. Why would you spend more to give less and catch a smaller net of people who enjoy an asset? They really are rendering 6 different glove models instead of 3 with refitting.
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  9. #139
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    To be fair theres a lot of pants that I personally like that I can't wear, because they just poof into mini-skirts with or without thigh highs, or short shorts (with or without thigh highs). It's fun playing "will it change" on the marketboard when figuring out glams and seeing what looks like a pair of pants that'd work with my fit, only for it to shift into a weird pair of shorts. (/s >:/ it isn't fun at all)

    On the ftm clothing, I like that there are that handful! I'd just wish to see more, and I along with a lot of others would pay for the options. there's a lot of pretty dresses that i wish i could wear as a hrothgar or maleroe that i can't, and if they added even a few more i'd consider switching or making a maleroe alt, and if they were mogstation exclus i'd even buy.

    though i'm glad they're slowly rolling out more, that's a HUGE step in the right direction and is something that i'm sure they could just as easily stick their feet in the mud and go "you got something, that's it" over.
    If you really wanted to play a hrothgar or male roe in a dress so bad, you could be playing one right now. I'd love to see your photos in the hrothgar thread!
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  10. #140
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    If you really wanted to play a hrothgar or male roe in a dress so bad, you could be playing one right now. I'd love to see your photos in the hrothgar thread!
    i actually was considering buying a fantasia to switch over to miqo for a bit, but i might take you up on that and buy an extra one to switch to hrothgar for a bit. there's some fem-exclu glams that i still want to wear and love, but ive already got a hrothgar saved for a side toon, might as well bring him out!
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    Last edited by MilkieTea; 02-02-2021 at 05:39 AM. Reason: i... adhd moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

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