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  1. #11
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    "46 sec is not enough time to finish Mocching when you are halfway through a two step mooch." > Don't star HL crafting rotation.

    "Most Fates that I'm waiting for while also queue [...] let me change to relevant class." > So the activity while waiting on a specific queue to proc is to wait on a specific fate to pop? Seeing any flaw here? There are fates all the time, all over the place, just pick one. And as soon as the queue pops just run away until you can change job. Or do the fate with the job you tagged with.

    "So I wait 9/15/30/45 minutes and people can't wait 2 minutes. [...], so why can't they wait 2 minutes serious" > Is the argument : "I waited long, so other shall wait as well"?

    "As that was your original someone might have a had a queue time of zero" > well it was not an argument but a correction because you said that, with waiting 30 minutes, +/- 2 minutes is nothing. But this falls appart if you didn't wait at all, then +/- 2 minutes represents a lot. Ok it's a little bit cheesy, I suppose.

    "whose the entitled one ther" > I assume it's you because you created this thread to complain. From my point of view, I have nothing against you, just against your idea of having a longer "accept duty" time.

    If I may add, I understand why you're frustrated. But the solution you propose is transferring your frustration to others, which is not acceptable from my point of view. If you don't agree with that and think you deserve better to the detriment of other, it's your right. The consequence of that is a disagreement between you and me. But I'm sure you and I will be able to live happily even with this situation So to conclude, I hope that Frizze's tip about the language will decrease your waiting times and that you'll be able to enjoy the game as you intend to. Wish you all the best in Eorzea
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  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farrongoth View Post
    If I withdraw in the middle of doing something because I know I can't make the time I should not get a 30 minute penalty, this is literally something that is making me want to quit the game.
    Unless you miss a queue 3 times within a 24-hour period, you won’t get a 30-minute queue penalty. So that’s a moot point unless you are routinely missing queues that often. If that is the case, then perhaps re-evaluate what you are doing while queuing. Perhaps do something that is easier to drop the second the queue pops. Or something that would take no more than the current wait timer to finish. The other people queuing are ready and have hit commenced. Why are you wanting to make them wait on you? Why should they?

    Not trying to sound cold but. You’re already given 45 seconds to finish what you’re doing and press the button.
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farrongoth View Post
    46 sec is not enough time to finish Mocching when you are halfway through a two step mooch. Most Fates that I'm waiting for while also queue duty proc the second the fate proc the duty then immediately procs, bad luck I know but still frustrating. Most Fates of which I can easily finish within two minutes. Most I could finish within 30 seconds but the game takes ages to let me change to relevant class.
    It's more than enough time to stop fishing and change jobs. It's more than enough time to simply abandon a FATE and change jobs. Queue's ready, get your *** in gear.
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    I wouldnt have such a big problem waiting to get in if the game wouldnt restrict me that mutch while waiting.....Literally cant do anything besides running around doing nothing...
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by FionaSilberpfeil View Post
    I wouldnt have such a big problem waiting to get in if the game wouldnt restrict me that mutch while waiting.....Literally cant do anything besides running around doing nothing...
    This is false. You can do plenty while queuing. The only tricky thing to do is MSQ as you may not want to get booted out of a cutscene. But things like side quests, overworld dailies (hunts, beast tribes), FATES, crafting, and gathering are 100% doable while in a queue.
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    This is false.
    I was talking about the waiting when the que popped and you are waiting for everyone to accept...
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farrongoth View Post
    So I should be screwed over because of that? I fail to see the point
    You've never had a queue, like an alliance raid, pop, somebody not commence, pop again, and repeat this like 5 times? Poof, 10 minutes gone.

    It would actually make the queue system completely unusable, your suggestion would kill the Duty Finder.

    Either crank up your system volume so you can hear it wherever you are in your home, wear wireless headphones, or get a controller so you can commence whenever the queue pops.

    Quote Originally Posted by Darkmoonrise View Post
    And as soon as the queue pops just run away until you can change job.
    He has a valid point there, we should be able to Commence duty regardless of whatever job we're on. What you described could be seen as griefing if you're resetting a mob - like a FATE boss - just to change jobs. And depending on your job, like Samurai, you're going to have a difficult time dropping aggro due to Higanbana.
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    Last edited by Luin; 01-31-2021 at 02:26 PM.

  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by FionaSilberpfeil View Post
    I was talking about the waiting when the que popped and you are waiting for everyone to accept...
    In that case, you have 45 seconds maximum wait time unless someone fails to commence. While some limitations are silly (e.g., unable to check marketboards or retainers), ideally you don’t even have a minute to really do anything. So I feel as if your statement is really looking for something to complain about. More times than not, when the duty commences you aren’t even waiting 45 seconds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    In that case, you have 45 seconds maximum wait time unless someone fails to commence. While some limitations are silly (e.g., unable to check marketboards or retainers), ideally you don’t even have a minute to really do anything. So I feel as if your statement is really looking for something to complain about. More times than not, when the duty commences you aren’t even waiting 45 seconds.
    Remember the OP wants to increase the time you can't interact.

    Quote Originally Posted by Luin View Post
    You've never had a queue, like an alliance raid, pop, somebody not commence, pop again, and repeat this like 5 times? Poof, 10 minutes gone.
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    Last edited by MrMagic; 02-01-2021 at 11:27 AM.

  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMagic View Post
    Remember the OP wants to increase the time you can't interact.
    Yes. Which I disagree with. There is no need to up the commenced timer beyond 45 seconds simply because the OP cannot keep an eye on his queue.

    My response to the above poster is primarily a misunderstanding from their first post. It wasn’t clear that they were talking about the 45 seconds, but rather the time you spend within the queue.
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