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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    Wait system will still need a few restrictions. Like relocators will have to join the list on wards that full to relocate. But would be free to relocate like normal on new wards. There would also be no wait list on a ward until it fills up.
    Actually, the relocation system work flawless... as when doing it... you may take a new location, but you still free up another location on another ward doing such though, with the 3 click per plot per day system, then those would go easy hand in hand, and in time give a better and more fair way for all.
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    I wouldn't say the relocation system is flawless. It certainly needs a CD longer than 5 minutes. Relocation should be a considered decision, not something done on a whim where a player can immediately change their mind and move again.
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    *laugh* no, you sweet summer child, no.
    limit to X attempts just means there would be more bots, so that after every X attempts a new bot can show up and work on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICountFrom0 View Post
    *laugh* no, you sweet summer child, no.
    limit to X attempts just means there would be more bots, so that after every X attempts a new bot can show up and work on it.
    And how many paid accounts with land purchase privileges do you think any sane person is going to buy to get a single house?

    Do a little math and get back to us.
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICountFrom0 View Post
    *laugh* no, you sweet summer child, no.
    limit to X attempts just means there would be more bots, so that after every X attempts a new bot can show up and work on it.
    You forget, the land plot could become available, 10 minutes after used last daily attempt on mentioned plot, likewise, if you are going to bot this constantly, you would need several subscribed accounts to be able to bot it effective, maybe you can afford to pay 1500 dollars per month for 100 accounts, to be any near efficient and then only still maybe as a potential bot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    And how many paid accounts with land purchase privileges do you think any sane person is going to buy to get a single house?

    Do a little math and get back to us.
    The same number who are spamming RMT tells and getting killed every time -- infinite.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrestlefire769 View Post
    The same number who are spamming RMT tells and getting killed every time -- infinite.
    You still need to pass the requirements to buy a house plot as well, it is not something you just get because am a subscriber.... if rmt bots does this.. you may end in a higher flow of houses becoming available all the time due to terminated accounts.
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  8. #28
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    They take the bots to 60 anyway, to get all the GIL they can from the quests, and sell it as well. Having to do one or two more quests won't slow them down and will only make more gil along the way.

    The number of bots able to be thrown at the problem is infinity.
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    Why not a simple caption box like most webpages do? Before you can click buy enter the text in the box... I know it's old school and this isn't some F2P Korean mmo but still you gotta admit it would be effective to limit bot activity in a lot of places..

    Wanna do a shout enter the caption or be muted for x amount of time.. passing the caption removes the prompt for an hour or so..

    Updating prices on a retainer.. enter the caption or you can't sell anything for a day or so.. would prevent the mass crashing of new items..

    Something with crafting, gathering and maybe even combat..

    Captions boxes work on most bots from what I've seen.. sure real players hate them but they are effective at controlling bots
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baxcel View Post
    Why not a simple caption box like most webpages do? Before you can click buy enter the text in the box... I know it's old school and this isn't some F2P Korean mmo but still you gotta admit it would be effective to limit bot activity in a lot of places..

    Wanna do a shout enter the caption or be muted for x amount of time.. passing the caption removes the prompt for an hour or so..

    Updating prices on a retainer.. enter the caption or you can't sell anything for a day or so.. would prevent the mass crashing of new items..

    Something with crafting, gathering and maybe even combat..

    Captions boxes work on most bots from what I've seen.. sure real players hate them but they are effective at controlling bots
    If they were a great solution, they would have been getting used by games years ago. It's not like it's new technology.

    A caption box is effective against a bot only if the bot's programmer didn't have enough incentive to bother breaking the code then programming the bot to solve it.

    Add them to a game and the bot programmers will happily figure out the code then program their bots to solve them, just as they've figured out how to get the bot to solve all the other parts of game play. Nothing gained except annoying the real players who will probably end up quitting over the frequent disruptions to their game play.

    If you want to be rid of bots, then you need to get rid of the cheaters who use them and/or their services. Once the bots no longer have customers, they will disappear from the game. As long as there customers for them, they aren't going anywhere.
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