Why doesn't pve have pvp combo structure?

[GrizzlyTank]

STOP TRYING TO MAKE FFXIV SO DUMBED DOWN ITS A ONE BUTTON GAME!

Not being a button fetishist is not the same as asking the game to be dumbed down.

This game is incredibly simple because almost every single job is stuck with a fixed rotation you can hardly deviate from, and even those that do have rng like dancer still end up with a 1,2,maybe 3, maybe 4,1,. .. rotation. Having one skill smeared over three buttons is not complex it is bloat that pushes the difficulty of the game to the player having to fight the interface and control system moreso than the actual game.

Monk is pretty much the only fixed rotation job that is actually complex due to having to juggle between buffs, max damage attacks and maintain positioning, and even if a lazy player were to just fill his entire bar such as the skills loops perfectly he would still have to maintain the positionals.

This game would gain a lot by not restricting themselves to almost only fixed rotations for most roles. More charger/spender or proc based rotations like Red mage would be welcome.

[Awha]

Please for those acting like such a change would lead to the sky falling, if they made it a toggleable option then all your fears are avoided. Do not want simplified combos just do not use it.

[LisSquid]

Please for those acting like such a change would lead to the sky falling, if they made it a toggleable option then all your fears are avoided. Do not want simplified combos just do not use it.

I don't want them to be satisfied enough with combos to be able to consolidate them into one button. I'd rather we move in a direction that would make such a function impossible. IE: rethink combos and make them more engaging.

[Kes13a]

Please for those acting like such a change would lead to the sky falling, if they made it a toggleable option then all your fears are avoided. Do not want simplified combos just do not use it.

yeah, if only it hasnt been seen time and again with things like this that developers will opt for less buttons, with no toggle on/off feature but removed abilities.

why? because its easiest.

[lolicon09]

Every job's actions can fit on 3 bars.

This. I still cannot understand where's this so called "button bloat" some people talk about.

[Vahlnir]

I still cannot understand where's this so called "button bloat" some people talk about.

On GNB I not only filled up my 2 crossbars (I think cycling between any more than that is a bit overwhelming with a controller), but also another I made myself which is only accessible by pressing 2 buttons at once on my controller to fill up another 4 slots to use. It's doable, but it took some getting used to. I think some people need to learn how to better configure their setup, but I can also see how it might seem like a lot to look at initially. I do think it helps that instead of just tossing in another skill to use, they are building on some of what is already there and upgrading those skills to save on having extra bar slots.

[Duskane]

This. I still cannot understand where's this so called "button bloat" some people talk about.

i cant fit all my actions on Paladin luckily its only shield bash
and i have to put LB in a seperate hotbar for GNB and my lightning shot is in a semi awkward spots which i cant fix without using 3 hotbars

i play controller and id love to have the OPTION to save a couple spots

[ItMe]

i play controller and id love to have the OPTION to save a couple spots

Especially because that extra space makes making hotbars much more flexible, and gives you room for pots.

[Duskane]

damn i forgot about pots even more reason

[ReynTime]

Not being a button fetishist is not the same as asking the game to be dumbed down.

This game is incredibly simple because almost every single job is stuck with a fixed rotation you can hardly deviate from, and even those that do have rng like dancer still end up with a 1,2,maybe 3, maybe 4,1,. .. rotation. Having one skill smeared over three buttons is not complex it is bloat that pushes the difficulty of the game to the player having to fight the interface and control system moreso than the actual game.

Monk is pretty much the only fixed rotation job that is actually complex due to having to juggle between buffs, max damage attacks and maintain positioning, and even if a lazy player were to just fill his entire bar such as the skills loops perfectly he would still have to maintain the positionals.

This game would gain a lot by not restricting themselves to almost only fixed rotations for most roles. More charger/spender or proc based rotations like Red mage would be welcome.

Holy crap. this is nearly exactly what I was going to post.