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  1. #11
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    Jin Wa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyakin View Post
    You are about the 1000th person to ask this. And every time it gets answered with the same thing.... STOP TRYING TO MAKE FFXIV SO DUMBED DOWN ITS A ONE BUTTON GAME! It’s bad enough SE guts jobs every expansion, it’s bad enough jobs like mch which was once the most complex and a lot of fun Is now considered the easiest. It’s time to make the game a bit more complex not less.
    Umm? If they did this then we would have more room for new abilities lol. Not before.
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  2. #12
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    it be nice to have as an option for specific combos
    it really wouldn't dumb the game down
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    it be nice to have as an option for specific combos
    it really wouldn't dumb the game down
    For some reason there are people who are REALLY deadset on pressing 1-2-3 and are vehemently against pressing 1-1-1.

    3 button presses either way, but one has 3 dedicated buttons and one has only 1 dedicated button.

    Maybe, JUST maybe if they actually did that, SE would have a reason to stop taking away abilities, repackaging them and giving them back to us at later levels.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jin- View Post
    Umm? If they did this then we would have more room for new abilities lol. Not before.
    Yeah, they'd definitely use that opportunity to add a ton of unique, interesting new skills, just like they did with all that newly opened hotbar space in 5.0 MCH- oh wait.
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  5. #15
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    Ren Crowe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyakin View Post
    You are about the 1000th person to ask this. And every time it gets answered with the same thing.... STOP TRYING TO MAKE FFXIV SO DUMBED DOWN ITS A ONE BUTTON GAME! It’s bad enough SE guts jobs every expansion, it’s bad enough jobs like mch which was once the most complex and a lot of fun Is now considered the easiest. It’s time to make the game a bit more complex not less.
    You can add complexity while still having fewer main combo buttons. You named a job that did this before. MCH has always had it's 3-part combo since it's conception yet you said it used to be complex so this means the main 3 part combo didn't add to it's complexity. So they could consolidate the combo into one button and then give us two more buttons in their place. (Also could you tell me when it was complex I don't recall it ever being but its been years)
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    Mother Kos
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    What about a button that just completes my whole rotation, too? PVP is already not as engaging because of this combo button nonsense. It's also rather insulting that they force us to use it.

    I've never had a problem using my buttons, and if the issue (and it is) that pressing 1 - 2 - 3 is mindless, then what we should be asking is why is game design bad?
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Satarn View Post
    Yeah, they'd definitely use that opportunity to add a ton of unique, interesting new skills, just like they did with all that newly opened hotbar space in 5.0 MCH- oh wait.
    You say this like mch ever really had a bunch of bunch of buttons to press. You're honestly pressing the same amount of buttons as hw in shb
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  8. #18
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    Father Gascoigne
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Wyakin View Post
    You are about the 1000th person to ask this. And every time it gets answered with the same thing.... STOP TRYING TO MAKE FFXIV SO DUMBED DOWN ITS A ONE BUTTON GAME! It’s bad enough SE guts jobs every expansion, it’s bad enough jobs like mch which was once the most complex and a lot of fun Is now considered the easiest. It’s time to make the game a bit more complex not less.
    If this is the only reason why they aren't combining them into 1 button, then it's a bad reason. Forcing something that can be done with 1 button into 3 different buttons ONLY for the sake of making it less intuitive is just incompetent design. If you all think that challenge=pointless inconvenience then maybe they should also disable the num pad, and not allow shift/ctrl/alt variants for each button. That would be a pretty effective way to make the game play worse for no real reason.
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  9. #19
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    Shao Kuraisenshi
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    Ragnarok
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    I don't want to spend the day spaming the same button for my GCD rotation, it's dull and it's not feel rewarding to play in a game like this, for me for example i hate inner release window for that same reason and are saddly everywhere now but i respect have a job or 2 that follow this like BLM but for the rest? never, we need more gameplay complexity not reduce everything to spam a button and use ocasional oGCD, i personally tired that everything need to be reduced to the most lower end floor and then start digging to lower it even more and i say it as a controller user.

    And there is still room to add/upgrade skills, for example every job that use the combo system could get finally a upgrade to the lvl 1 combo started (except DRG who already have one) and add more effects to the second combo step and stuff like that for no mention there is still jobs with skills that have lack of impact or are extremly situational for nerfs or just bcs overall poor desing.
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    Last edited by shao32; 01-24-2021 at 03:29 AM.

  10. #20
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    Mother Kos
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    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    we need more gameplay complexity not reduce everything to spam a button and use ocasional oGCD, i personally tired that everything need to be reduced to the most lower end floor and then start digging to lower it even more and i say it as a controller user.

    100% to your whole post. We need to have more interaction with our combos, not reduce them to a one button spam.
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