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    HotPixels's Avatar
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    Anemone Dawnborn
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    Why doesn't pve have pvp combo structure?

    Having a 3 button combo in 1 button is far superior than the pointless bloat we have in pve it's night and day difference.

    I have no issues on kb or controller but it's just common sense that its far superior design when you're never gonna break combo anyway
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    Magnus Brighton
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    "when you're never gonna break combo anyway"

    I've had to break my combo early in TEA so I could use Goring Blade on Brute Justice as soon as he spawned, saving me 2 GCDs and allowing me to go immediately into my spell rotation to hit BJ and CC then reapply Goring Blade before using Passage of Arms on the 9th-12th J Waves.
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    Khloe Stardew
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirBrighton View Post
    "when you're never gonna break combo anyway"

    I've had to break my combo early in TEA so I could use Goring Blade on Brute Justice as soon as he spawned, saving me 2 GCDs and allowing me to go immediately into my spell rotation to hit BJ and CC then reapply Goring Blade before using Passage of Arms on the 9th-12th J Waves.
    this is the best answer honestly why it doesn't work in PvE. Better than the ones sayings its lazy in other threads when someone asked why or suggested.

    but honestly you want one button combos you can setup a macro in the game. in facto you can almost do a complete rotation with the macro system on certain jobs.
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    Last edited by MsMisato; 01-24-2021 at 04:58 AM.

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    Iiiiiiiiiiit's Meeeee
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    Quote Originally Posted by spf1200 View Post
    Since no one has answered this question (it's almost like people are avoiding it) I'll ask you. Why is pressing 123 more complex than 111?
    I don't think it's a question of the gameplay being more complex with 123, I think it's a question of "how do you make DNC or DRG into 111?" And that trying to make them 111 would be no good because most non-tanks have combo trees and aren't even 123 to begin with.
    Also, the first response on this thread is about how there are times you DON'T wanna push 123.
    Quote Originally Posted by SirBrighton View Post
    "when you're never gonna break combo anyway"

    I've had to break my combo early in TEA so I could use Goring Blade on Brute Justice as soon as he spawned, saving me 2 GCDs and allowing me to go immediately into my spell rotation to hit BJ and CC then reapply Goring Blade before using Passage of Arms on the 9th-12th J Waves.
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    Father Gascoigne
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    I don't think it's a question of the gameplay being more complex with 123, I think it's a question of "how do you make DNC or DRG into 111?" And that trying to make them 111 would be no good because most non-tanks have combo trees and aren't even 123 to begin with.
    Also, the first response on this thread is about how there are times you DON'T wanna push 123.
    There are ways to work around combo trees; just leave the alternate finisher or alternate route as separate button(s).

    The only situations consolidation wouldn't work for are ones where you'd want to start your combo over again without finishing it, and I can't really think of any situation where that would be a good idea.
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    No thanks, I'd likely stop doing anything beyond the most casual of PVE content if they reduced PVE to the mindless hell they're reduced PVP into.
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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    No thanks, I'd likely stop doing anything beyond the most casual of PVE content if they reduced PVE to the mindless hell they're reduced PVP into.
    The hardest part of PvP, at least in my experience, has always been getting a team/alliance that actually works together instead of zerging straight into a meat grinder for 20 minutes straight, not people doing their rotations.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 01-23-2021 at 03:29 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    No thanks, I'd likely stop doing anything beyond the most casual of PVE content if they reduced PVE to the mindless hell they're reduced PVP into.
    I'm now confused about the thread calling for more button reduction..

    actually sometimes you people here confuse me. You want one thing and then you don't want that thing. x_x;;
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quintessa View Post
    I'm now confused about the thread calling for more button reduction..

    actually sometimes you people here confuse me. You want one thing and then you don't want that thing. x_x;;
    There's button reduction by making abilities interact in fun and complex ways, and then there is automation. The pvp combo buttons are automation, which is what op is asking for.
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    Ritzia Flameshadow
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    For anyone that thinks one button combos are anything but boring try playing a healer in most content. Wear out my 1 key while waiting to reapply my 2 key, with the occasional 5 key every 45 seconds. Oh and trash pulls? Forget 2~3 presses every other job gets I just press the 4 key to holy and 3 if blood lily is up. And white mage has more of the fun dps buttons compared to the other healers.
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