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    Jonnycbad's Avatar
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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 100

    Some ideas to consolidate buttons/reduce button bloat

    Dragoon:

    -Make "Piercing Talon" into an 180 potency ability instead of a GCD.
    At level 60, "Piercing Talon" upgrades into Geirskogul while under the effect of "Blood of the Dragon" (you can't use Geirskogul currently without Blood of the Dragon anyway).

    -Mirage Dive replaces the Jump/High Jump button while under the effect of "Mirage Dive Ready"


    Paladin:
    -Confiteor replaces the Requiescat button while under the effect of Requiescat.

    Black Mage:
    -Blizzard 2 directly upgrades to Freeze.
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    Nica Kisshu
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Ninja: Dream within a Dream changes to Assassinate when used

    BLM: Change Leyline into Between the Lines when Leyline is active
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    Jonnycbad's Avatar
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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisshu View Post
    Ninja: Dream within a Dream changes to Assassinate when used

    BLM: Change Leyline into Between the Lines when Leyline is active
    Ughhh these are so good
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    X'lota Qi
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    Lamia
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    Bard Lv 100
    Would rather they do stuff like this than just delete actions.
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    "A good RPG needs a healthy dose of imbalance."
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    Samuel Wolcott
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    Leviathan
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Idk about how keyboard users feel, but as someone who plays exclusively on the DS4 even after moving to PC, doing something like this would really help save space on the hotbar. A lot of my hotbars are almost full, and I'm worried with 6.0 I'll have to do some pretty major reorganization so this would help a lot.

    As for piercing talon, idk, its useless in most content, but in those cases where you are blocked from melee range it can help maintain some amount of DPS for 2, 3 GCD's.
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    Mother Kos
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    Hyperion
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Make cure 1, benefic 1, and physick upgrade to cure 2, benefic 2, and adlo respectively. I can't think of any situation where using these baby spells is useful. As soon as you get the "rank ups" you will never use the others again. Total waste, but can't delete them off your bar in case you get thrown into a terribly low dungeon.
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    Crushing Fatigue
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by LisSquid View Post
    Make cure 1, benefic 1, and physick upgrade to cure 2, benefic 2, and adlo respectively. I can't think of any situation where using these baby spells is useful. As soon as you get the "rank ups" you will never use the others again. Total waste, but can't delete them off your bar in case you get thrown into a terribly low dungeon.
    Physick used to be useful when we could macro our faeries, targeted Physick + Embrace was hella useful. Now it's basically the 'only use is you have NOTHING else' button.
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    Thea Sitori
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    Physick used to be useful when we could macro our faeries, targeted Physick + Embrace was hella useful. Now it's basically the 'only use is you have NOTHING else' button.
    No, it was never useful. You actually lost a lot of embrace casts with macros to SCH skills because the embrace cooldown doesn't align to any other skill. It's like cutting yourself.
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    Altina Schwarzer
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    Twintania
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by LisSquid View Post
    Make cure 1, benefic 1, and physick upgrade to cure 2, benefic 2, and adlo respectively. I can't think of any situation where using these baby spells is useful. As soon as you get the "rank ups" you will never use the others again. Total waste, but can't delete them off your bar in case you get thrown into a terribly low dungeon.
    In that case, SE would need to replace the free Cure 2/Benefic 2 trait as well as the consolidation would make it (even more?) useless.
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    Wind-up Antecedent
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    Zalera
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    Rogue Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mahoukenshi View Post
    In that case, SE would need to replace the free Cure 2/Benefic 2 trait as well as the consolidation would make it (even more?) useless.
    Replace Freecure with Cure Mastery, Enhanced Benefic with Benefic Mastery, and give Scholar a trait called Physick Mastery. All these traits would do is replace the spells with their upgraded versions (Cure -> Cure 2, Benefic -> Benefic 2, Physick -> Adloquium). Maybe the MP costs of these spells could be lowered to 800 or so, too, as compensation for the replacement of the old traits. The developers obviously expected people to make use of them, after all.
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