Why do people save LB till the end of the fight?

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

OP has cleared savage and is asking this question.

I think it is precisely players with such experience would ask this question. It mystifies them why there are players who would not know or possibly, ignoring the good golden LB button.

[BloodRubyXII]

You're one of those type of people huh

It's a correction for you, no need to go Karen over it.

[Peace-Division]

The game does a terrible job of training people to use it . The game doesn't tell people that LB is per party after the new patch so multi raid parties have one of their own to hit the boss with now. Few read patch notes.

Many people think that you need to save it for LB3 in a dungeon by not using it at all until the last boss which is a waste as the LB is limited by rank depending on the encounter so it will not charge past that rank until the final boss (trials are a single final encounter so wil go to 3 from the get go). Many dont know that in certain duties the LB2 you have accumulated is scrubbed the moment you attack the first boss ( MSQ Nero for example)

Also:

Everyone needs to help rid the crummy myth that LB is for bosses only in dungeons and that it does more damage if the Boss HP is under XXX percent its incorrect on both counts . If you see players spouting this nonsense please kindly inform them of their error.

[Hycinthus]

Also because people are hesitant to use it. You know, just like that last piece of chicken on the plate, no one will take it.

[Gemina]

The game does a terrible job of training people to use it . The game doesn't tell people that LB is per party after the new patch so multi raid parties have one of their own to hit the boss with now. Few read patch notes.

Many people think that you need to save it for LB3 in a dungeon by not using it at all until the last boss which is a waste as the LB is limited by rank depending on the encounter so it will not charge past that rank until the final boss (trials are a single final encounter so wil go to 3 from the get go). Many dont know that in certain duties the LB2 you have accumulated is scrubbed the moment you attack the first boss ( MSQ Nero for example)

Also:

Everyone needs to help rid the crummy myth that LB is for bosses only in dungeons and that it does more damage if the Boss HP is under XXX percent its incorrect on both counts . If you see players spouting this nonsense please kindly inform them of their error.

I looked into LB generation, and what goes into it is definitely not taught to players. Things like tanks interrupting mob abilities, DPS using their mitigation role skill, and healers actually letting the tank drop to crit HP are some of these. When you look at the list, it can all be summed up to, "Just do your job." The game does teach us the limit gauge is shared, and contributions from the entire party fills it, and each bar of the gauge uses a more powerful version of the previous. That is really all they need to know in order to fill the gauge at a reasonable rate.

However, a lot of things about LB I have learned in the game from other players. Some examples are slower gauge generation when two or more of the same job are present, and that boss aggro erases whatever amount of gauge previously accumulated. Limit break is not alone in the fact that the devs have relied on outside resources such as content and guide creators to provide this information to players as they uncover it themselves. I think this approach is fine in certain cases; as is the case with LB.

I would actually surmise that the reason why a lot of players don't use it is because of the knowledge that is provided by the game. It does let us know it is a shared resource, and finally getting a player to break the mold and use it can be extremely difficult as they don't want to toss a giant spotlight on themselves. It is a necessary step though if a player wishes to progress.

[Curisu]

Just to make things more clear.
caster/range LB 1 does on 3 Targets more dmg then a melee LB 2

And because you will never fill a LB 3 in a dungeon, it is always better to use the caster/ranged LB 1 on a big trash pull.

Also, never ever use a tank or heal LB1/ 2.
They nearly useless and have no real use in any Dungeon.

[ReiMakoto]

Yeah... no

Ranged/Magical LB1 is 1650 pot
Ranged/Magical LB2 is 3600 pot
* and this is on every single enemy (no reduction based on # of mobs like with many of their AoE skills)

Melee LB1 is 2400 pot
Melee LB2 is 5250 pot
* of note here, grab your favorite melee job and combine the total potency from your entire opener, and then compare it the LB2 number here.

How exactly are you going to make it more useful when so many players are already ignoring these potencies?

Your potencies are outdated/ incorrect: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...m_source=share

There are some situations were you could do more by not LBing such as when youre in your burst phase

[Quintessa]

My favorite is the fights that break out over it.

It's a correction for you, no need to go Karen over it.

...but then you had to give a Cecilia response.


(Im kidding)

[Quintessa]

Yeah... no

Ranged/Magical LB1 is 1650 pot
Ranged/Magical LB2 is 3600 pot
* and this is on every single enemy (no reduction based on # of mobs like with many of their AoE skills)

Melee LB1 is 2400 pot
Melee LB2 is 5250 pot
* of note here, grab your favorite melee job and combine the total potency from your entire opener, and then compare it the LB2 number here.

How exactly are you going to make it more useful when so many players are already ignoring these potencies?

I mean yeah but a dps opener makes more sense at 5% than an attack that takes 50 years to actually do the damage.

[Jin-]

I always use lb3 ASAP. Then I cross my fingers that healers do their job or I will get blamed for the wipe.

I remember when I told my brother to use lb1 on mobs in a copper bell dungeon to clear them faster. I was tanking. Then the other dps flips out that lb needs to be saved for the last boss. Full Internet rage mode from that one and refusing to understand that lb does not increase if the bar is already filled and its just waste of dps by not using it