Why do people save LB till the end of the fight?

[ReiMakoto]

Yeah... no

Ranged/Magical LB1 is 1650 pot
Ranged/Magical LB2 is 3600 pot
* and this is on every single enemy (no reduction based on # of mobs like with many of their AoE skills)

Melee LB1 is 2400 pot
Melee LB2 is 5250 pot
* of note here, grab your favorite melee job and combine the total potency from your entire opener, and then compare it the LB2 number here.

How exactly are you going to make it more useful when so many players are already ignoring these potencies?

Your potencies are outdated/ incorrect: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...m_source=share

There are some situations were you could do more by not LBing such as when youre in your burst phase

[Quintessa]

Yeah... no

Ranged/Magical LB1 is 1650 pot
Ranged/Magical LB2 is 3600 pot
* and this is on every single enemy (no reduction based on # of mobs like with many of their AoE skills)

Melee LB1 is 2400 pot
Melee LB2 is 5250 pot
* of note here, grab your favorite melee job and combine the total potency from your entire opener, and then compare it the LB2 number here.

How exactly are you going to make it more useful when so many players are already ignoring these potencies?

I mean yeah but a dps opener makes more sense at 5% than an attack that takes 50 years to actually do the damage.

[RyuDragnier]

In the case of trials/raids, often there's at least 1 mechanic that can easily wipe most of the raid if people mess up, and LB3 is often saved for such moments as a recovery from those circumstances. Example, just yesterday in Puppet's Bunker LB3 was used immediately by a DPS, and shortly after the boss proceeded to do the pod attacks. The safezone was on the other side of the field, witnessed for the first time (I thought there were multiple safe zones). Everybody died but a handful of us. Because the LB3 was gone and he began charging his stack markers, I couldn't rez enough people in time and we wiped.

Saving LB3 for healers except when the boss is about to die is for moments like that, when one thing goes wrong and everything starts going downhill. Had an LB been on the backburner, we probably could have saved that attempt. Not that I blame the DPS, it was the first time I've ever seen that happen, and I was laughing more than anything because of the jokes from the alliance.

[Dogempire]

Most of the time the ranged/caster LB won't make much of a difference in whether the group wipes/kills the pack of mobs.

Personally I only ever touch the LB button if the tank is making a really risky pull like the wall to wall pull at the end of Anamnesis Anyder.

If the tank is wiping the group pulling 2 groups of mobs in the newest dungeons then either the tank is bad, the healer is bad, or both are bad.

[Yeol]

Especially in like very easy trails/raids.

In dungeons too. Like why not use caster/range lb3 on a large group of mobs instead of saving it for the boss, the lb would do more damage to a large group of mobs than it would do on a single target.

For trials/raids
LB3 sometimes is used for mechanics such as tank LB3. It is also saved to be used by healers when learning the fight. Caster/Ranged LB is sometimes used if there is more than 1 target. Melee LB3 is usually used at the very end of the encounter when none of the things I mentioned before are needed.

For dungeons
Caster/Ranged LB is better used on large pulls. Melee LB can be used on bosses or single target door mobs if it's up.

Most people don't use LB in dungeons, sometimes the dungeon is cleared without ever using LB. I think the reason for this is because people are not used to seeing other people using LB while doing dungeons. If LB was frequently used in the situation I mentioned above it will be the norm and more people will remember to use it.

[RyuDragnier]

Most people don't use LB in dungeons, sometimes the dungeon is cleared without ever using LB. I think the reason for this is because people are not used to seeing other people using LB while doing dungeons. If LB was frequently used in the situation I mentioned above it will be the norm and more people will remember to use it.

It can also depend on WHEN you get LB1. If the party is skilled and you're going through the dungeon fast, you may not see LB1 until you're halfway done or completely done with the 2nd boss, at which point you may end up forgetting that you even had the ability to use it to begin with.

[Shibi]

I rarely get the chance, Alisaie is all over them like a policeman on doughnut.

[Quintessa]

I feel like its just good for ranged jobs now on big pulls.

[StrykerGaming]

Especially in like very easy trails/raids.

I use it as the situation dictates. Like today against Ishgard's High Priest/Thoadan God and his band of primal wannabes. My SMN dropped it when most of his knights were surrounding him and he was at less than 30% HP. All his knights vaporized and he dropped another chunk of HP where we promptly nuked him. I'll save it if I know we'll need it during a burn phase or I'll use it if it's up when the tank takes on a mob or 3 more than they were capable of handling. Speaking of...IIRC (as a main tank player) Aggro cap is limited to between 10 to 15 enemies, maybe 12. I've not tested it out enough to know the exact number. There's always an aggro cap for which the tank has to maintain enemies around them. You'll know when he has too many when they turn on you or the healer (for using an AOE heal). It's at that point I drop the LB on them.

[NanaWiloh]

OP has cleared savage and is asking this question.