"Market Prohibited " must be removed

[SoulsGuardian]

The "Market Prohibited" restriction on items is pointless and must be removed.
The only thing this does is have players carry unusable items from old content that is not done much anymore.
By removing the restriction, it allows new players to get gear and items from that content.
Also it will encourage old players to go back and do, and even solo in some cases, old content, which will cause servers congestions to diminish in several areas too.

[RicaRuin]

Oh yes, buy weapons from the Content you are unable to clear. I'm against that idea.

[SoulsGuardian]

Oh yes, buy weapons from the Content you are unable to clear. I'm against that idea.

Why is that? I mean, many new players are unable to clear content just because old players don't help with old content.

[ForteNightshade]

Why is that? I mean, many new players are unable to clear content just because old players don't help with old content.

And yet your proposal ensures they have a vested interest in not helping players. Why am I going to help players with old content if by doing it solo, I'm guaranteed all the rewards for myself that I'm now able to sell? Furthermore, it wouldn't be a market since all that gear would instantly become worthless due to oversaturation. Look at old Primal weapons that were stuffed into Eureka or Bozja. These weapons once sold for hundreds of thousands, if not millions. Now they barely hit 10k. Some have dropped as low as 2k.

[RicaRuin]

Why is that? I mean, many new players are unable to clear content just because old players don't help with old content.

Basically, your proposal would allow players to just chuck millions of Gil at the Market Board to get the Weapon from an Extreme Trial they are too bad to clear. The weapon is a reward for that content and shouldn't be given out like that.

Dungeon Gear isn't all that better compared to Market Gear, so no need to make it avaiable. If people want it for Glamour, then put in effort.

New people do get help with queues via Roulettes, and for your Coil Example PF groups for that always fill rather quickly unless you try on off hours.

Also, ad absurdum, your proposal would allow for Tome Gear, Savage Gear, and Ultimate Weapons to be bought with Gil. Just... no.

[ReynTime]

Basically, your proposal would allow players to just chuck millions of Gil at the Market Board to get the Weapon from an Extreme Trial they are too bad to clear. The weapon is a reward for that content and shouldn't be given out like that.

Dungeon Gear isn't all that better compared to Market Gear, so no need to make it avaiable. If people want it for Glamour, then put in effort.

New people do get help with queues via Roulettes, and for your Coil Example PF groups for that always fill rather quickly unless you try on off hours.

Also, ad absurdum, your proposal would allow for Tome Gear, Savage Gear, and Ultimate Weapons to be bought with Gil. Just... no.

You're correct but I'll still say that players already chuck millions in gil to be carried for said weapons if they want them that bad anyway.

[HyoMinPark]

Why is that? I mean, many new players are unable to clear content just because old players don't help with old content.

Because some old content has zero incentive to them doing them now. Old dungeons are only really good if someone is after a specific glamour piece or a minion—because the gear is outdated and not useful for anything else other than company seals; and some of the crafted mats from the dungeons can just be purchased off the MB. Usually for very cheap, too. But most older dungeons could be duo’d or solo’d, so you don’t really need many older players to do them. Just grab one other friend and go to town if it’s not something you can do solo. Squadrons and Trusts are also an option for dungeon glamour farming, if that’s what you’re wanting to do.

Any older content that would be worth it to run (e.g., Coil, old Savage, old Extremes) can be done via undersized Party Finders (or solo, as all of Coil can be solo’d by a level 80 player now). That’s the most common way of mount/glamour farming those types of content. Veteran players that would want to help can simply join those PFs. Done so myself many times, and it’s not an uncommon thing to see mount/glamour farm PFs for old Extremes or Savages to fill up when they’re posted. Just depends on the time of day of how quickly you can get people for them.

[ItMe]

The only thing this does is have players carry unusable items from old content that is not done much anymore.

Why are they carrying it around?
Just throw it away if you don't need something and can't sell it to an NPC.

By removing the restriction, it allows new players to get gear and items from that content.

Why don't new players just running that content to get those items?

[SoulsGuardian]

Why are they carrying it around?
Just throw it away if you don't need something and can't sell it to an NPC.



Why don't new players just running that content to get those items?

One of my points is that no item should ever have to be discarded, it is just a waste.

Nowadays, not many people do old content, let's say Coil of Bahamut for Example.
The other day I actually had to help someone clear it because the person was unable and not many people do it.

[ItMe]

One of my points is that no item should ever have to be discarded, it is just a waste.

Then why not just have all items be sealable to an NPC vendor or turn-in-able to your GC for scripts?
The push to be able to give them to other players specifically is problematic.