Yeah, it's just that going back and helping my friends to be motivated to keep playing through ARR and early HW basically amounts to me hedging it with "keep it up and it'll get better", meanwhile I'm biting my nails hoping it's not too discouraging/boring for them. They aren't really MMO players but are longtime FF fans, so I'm hopeful they'll stick with it. It's just theres 0 strategy for the first 100 hours of FFXIV because shit just melts and it can really suck the wind out of the sails of new players who get this huge buildup for fights like Thordan or Ultima Weapon and then it's just a snooze fest.