Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
The game's strongest line to me will always be from Zenos: "Would you be happier had I a good reason?" Helped along by the context, of course--saying that to a Garlean about their empire really helps it find its mark--but it's such a strong line in general.
Meanwhile, I deeply dislike this line from Zenos – it's seems meant as a clever thing in the moment, but it doesn't hold up to logic.

Firstly you would have to conceive of what might be a contrasting "good reason" for someone to do the things that Zenos did – killed people, destroyed an empire, indirectly caused the deaths of many more, aimed to destroy the gods themselves and the entire world if it would earn him his precious rematch.

If these acts could indeed be committed with a good reason, what relevance would that theoretical possibility have? Is it supposed to be a "well, you still think Hydaelyn is a good person" gotcha? But that comes back to the difficult and inconsistent tone they take regarding her choices across the game.

And it doesn't change the fact that Zenos did those things for a selfish reason, and Jullus has every right to be angry with him for what he did. It's not the clever shutdown to the argument that it's treated as.