Level 80s who single target groups of mobs

[Garnix]

Here is how you fix it : extend the trust system to every single dungeon in the game.
For sure you'd still get a few bad apples but I think that a large portion of the people who show no desire for self-improvement are probably not interested in the MMO aspect of the game.

They added the hall of the novice to teach the basics, and even then people were not doing the basics.
If people don't want to learn, they'll never learn, no matter how much training they have.
That's also why even the easy solo instances have a 'very easy' difficulty option now. People don't even want to try learning the patterns of those easy encounters.
If they want to learn, they have plenty of tools at their disposal (Google/Reddit/forums/in-game chat/skill tooltips...)

[SturmChurro]

Here is how you fix it : extend the trust system to every single dungeon in the game.
For sure you'd still get a few bad apples but I think that a large portion of the people who show no desire for self-improvement are probably not interested in the MMO aspect of the game.

They added the hall of the novice to teach the basics, and even then people were not doing the basics.
If people don't want to learn, they'll never learn, no matter how much training they have.
That's also why even the easy solo instances have a 'very easy' difficulty option now. People don't even want to try learning the patterns of those easy encounters.
If they want to learn, they have plenty of tools at their disposal (Google/Reddit/forums/in-game chat/skill tooltips...)

This is an mmorpg. I think the game just probably isn't for them. There are plenty of single player games for them out there! No reason to waste resources on more trusts, to that extent.

[Kuroka]

This is an mmorpg. I think the game just probably isn't for them. There are plenty of single player games for them out there! No reason to waste resources on more trusts, to that extent.

Shhhh you cant say that, how dare you, thats mean! xD

[Garnix]

This is an mmorpg. I think the game just probably isn't for them. There are plenty of single player games for them out there! No reason to waste resources on more trusts, to that extent.

The reason why they put resources in the trust system to begin with was specifically for this type of players, so I wouldn't say the game is not for them.

[SturmChurro]

The reason why they put resources in the trust system to begin with was specifically for this type of players, so I wouldn't say the game is not for them.

They had to add it, because the game wasn't for them. A big mistake, I think. Better to cater to your base, than these other players. It's an mmorpg, not a single player rpg. Game would be better off not getting watered down further for these players.

[Styrmwyda]

They had to add it, because the game wasn't for them. A big mistake, I think. Better to cater to your base, than these other players. It's an mmorpg, not a single player rpg. Game would be better off not getting watered down further for these players.

Maybe people like the story?

[Goji1639]

They had to add it, because the game wasn't for them. A big mistake, I think. Better to cater to your base, than these other players. It's an mmorpg, not a single player rpg. Game would be better off not getting watered down further for these players.

FFXIV's endgame is an MMORPG. Everything leading up to it is basically plays like a single player RPG with a great story, but has forced group content pigeon-holed in a way that completely breaks immersion and ruins the pace of the game.

Trusts are one of the best things they've ever added to this game. They're badly needed in 1-70 content as well.

[Vahlnir]

FFXIV's endgame is an MMORPG. Everything leading up to it is basically plays like a single player RPG with a great story, but has forced group content pigeon-holed in a way that completely breaks immersion and ruins the pace of the game.

Trusts are one of the best things they've ever added to this game. They're badly needed in 1-70 content as well.

Yeah, I don't see the issue with Trusts. Heck, I've been using them for my first time in every Shadowbringers dungeon so far that has had them available. It allows me to enjoy the dungeon at my own pace and it's nice to enjoy them with the story NPCs since they are usually for the, you know, story. After that...to the duty finder I go where I pull wall to wall and try to speed things up for everyone's benefit.

[Kuroka]

They had to add it, because the game wasn't for them. A big mistake, I think. Better to cater to your base, than these other players. It's an mmorpg, not a single player rpg. Game would be better off not getting watered down further for these players.

True. And no it doesnt help you like the story but not the game around it - its like saying "i like F1 cars are really nice but i dont want them to move thats boring..." omg yes its late and im not gettin a better analogy atm xD

[Styrmwyda]

True. And no it doesnt help you like the story but not the game around it - its like saying "i like F1 cars are really nice but i dont want them to move thats boring..." omg yes its late and im not gettin a better analogy atm xD

Maybe I like the game around it, I just don't want to have to wait for duty finder to find people?