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  1. #21
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    Waterscape's Avatar
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    Sunleth Waterscape
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    Moogle
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by EirolOcarrol View Post
    Video games are hard, and some people learn at a slower pace than others. People who focus on metagaming tend to gravitate towards other genres like arcade games, or non-arcade competitive games like MOBAs, or anything with a focus on twitch reflexes, rather than role playing games.

    People often stick with a playstyle that has suited them well. Or may have a different philosophy of play than others.

    Also, a lot of people can be pretty rude and demanding when it comes to giving others advice. Just as often as people are defensive when given advice, others are offensive. It's a chicken and egg situation. Maybe people are sensitive because they've had people rude about their playstyle in the past? I mean, you don't exactly sound the most polite yourself, right now. Is it really that bad to spend 35 minutes in a dungeon? A little patience in life goes a long way. I think roleplayers and Gposers often have the right of it, in that they often live in the moment, instead of feeling like they have to being in a rush at all times.

    XIV gives you the tools to avoid players who are slow or don't have optimal DPS if you so choose. It sounds like you may prefer developing a static that reflects your standards.
    a static for a dungeon ? People who are tolerating bad gameplay like this are actually a huge problem in this game.
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    Last edited by Waterscape; 01-18-2021 at 01:13 PM.

  2. #22
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    Quintessa's Avatar
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    Saturn Vitrell
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    Famfrit
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    Marauder Lv 18
    #YouDontPayMySub
    #AutoAttacksOnlyIsTheRightWay
    #ThereIs5MobsGonnaFire1ThisGroupDownYouShaddupAboutIt
    #ThisMyElelatorNotYourElelatorIPushTheButton (Tiny Toons Adventures Reference)

    Edit: corrected reference
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    Last edited by Quintessa; 01-18-2021 at 07:47 PM.

  3. #23
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    Godzillaxpowerrangers's Avatar
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    Ayatane Wolfblade
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    Cerberus
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    Reaper Lv 100
    I'll start with single attacks to get my two buffs up then I'll use my aoes.
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  5. #24
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    Absurdity's Avatar
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AncientWillow View Post
    Well sometimes there is one thing you want to kill fast before aoeing the rest, or in some classes like monk I want twin snakes up for the aoe, also its nice to dot 1st then aoe in my opinion. On paladin i single target after my aoe combo so i can build my mp back up for next big pull
    What aoe combo are we talking about? Because your basic Total Eclipse -> Prominence combo already restores MP.
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  6. #25
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    Hycinthus's Avatar
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    Alonzo Vivas
    World
    Exodus
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaticDodo View Post
    This is genius. I wish that this wasn't attached to my part vitriolic, part feature request thread, but A+ man. You know whats up.
    If it’s in 6.0, then it can be integrated to Sharlayan University (since we are like 60% chance going to Sharlayan).

    If you complete the certification, you can get a furniture to hang on the wall showing your Sharlayan University certificate. Heck, roll it as part of the Job quest 80-90.
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  7. #26
    Player Anhra's Avatar
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    Anhra Nefaris
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    Omega
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Personally, i think those kind of people only exist because they managed to get this far without getting punished by the game for it, and since they didn't and won't be anytime soon, there is going to be even more of them in the near future, because difficulty, is almost nonexistent in Dungeons and 24 Man Raids (except maybe the Yorha raids).

    The most effective way of learning both gameplay and its optimisation in my opinion, is and has always been trial and error un any kind if video game, but unless you plan on joining savage or other hardcore content, you don't even need it because you know you will get away with it, even if you're a BLM spam chaining ice 2 into fire 2 in melee range.

    That's just my two cents on the matter, so try not taking it too seriously.
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  8. #27
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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by EirolOcarrol View Post
    Video games are hard, and some people learn at a slower pace than others.
    This excuse has long gotten tiresome. It isn't difficult to press an AoE combo sequence over a ST one. All you need to "learn" is reading your tooltips and have a grade school understanding of math.
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
    "The silence is your answer."


  9. #28
    Player Ammokkx's Avatar
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    Khenda Chelae
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    I thought the punchline was going to be trusts again.

    Guess not.
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  10. #29
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    Mother Kos
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    Hyperion
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    To me, 35 minutes isn't a huge deal anyway. As a tank, that's about how long my Trust dungeons run since Trusts forgot their AoE spells.
    I use trusts to farm the dungeon glam while I do laundry. I don't even cast anything. I just stand there and move from mob pack to mob pack until its done. Usually about 25-30. Something is really wrong if you're in a dungeon of four real people and it takes 35minutes.
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    Dolf Silverbeard
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    Excalibur
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Quintessa View Post
    #YouDontPayMySub
    #AutoAttacksOnlyIsTheRightWay
    #ThereIs5MobsGonnaFire1ThisGroupDownYouShaddupAboutIt
    #ThisMyElelatorNotYourElelatorIPushTheButton (Animaniacs Reference)
    I would thumb this up but.....it's Tiny Toon Adventures, not Animaniacs.
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