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  1. 01-19-2021 01:43 AM

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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    I probably wouldn't tolerate that amount of red tape at my actual job, let alone a game I'm paying monthly to play. Wasting everyone's time to deal with an issue that involves a handful of people is exactly the way someone in a management position would address this problem, and it always galls me.

    This game's easy, so the player base is going to be casual; which means the occasional slow run. No ones stopping anyone from starting a FC and setting up a Network of static groups with an extensive "certification" process, but this doesn't belong anywhere near the Duty Finder.
    Agreed. I PUG all the time. There's the occasional slow run but there's also the really fast speed run and most runs are somewhere in the middle because we have a playerbase of wildly varying experience levels and playstyles.

    Plus I also wondered just how the heck you would code this. And what could that coding time be spent on that would be more worthwhile.
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    Quintessa's Avatar
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    Saturn Vitrell
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    Famfrit
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    Marauder Lv 18
    #YouDontPayMySub
    #AutoAttacksOnlyIsTheRightWay
    #ThereIs5MobsGonnaFire1ThisGroupDownYouShaddupAboutIt
    #ThisMyElelatorNotYourElelatorIPushTheButton (Tiny Toons Adventures Reference)

    Edit: corrected reference
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    Last edited by Quintessa; 01-18-2021 at 07:47 PM.

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    Black_Wing's Avatar
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    Dolf Silverbeard
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    Excalibur
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Quintessa View Post
    #YouDontPayMySub
    #AutoAttacksOnlyIsTheRightWay
    #ThereIs5MobsGonnaFire1ThisGroupDownYouShaddupAboutIt
    #ThisMyElelatorNotYourElelatorIPushTheButton (Animaniacs Reference)
    I would thumb this up but.....it's Tiny Toon Adventures, not Animaniacs.
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    Packetdancer's Avatar
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    Khit Amariyo
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    Leviathan
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    The game itself does a poor job of teaching people about certain situations. So firstly, I would blame the dev team for some of this issue. Sure, one could say "read your tooltips!" but...there's a portion of the player base that truly doesn't care.
    Also, the tooltips are not what I'd call a shining example of clear writing in many cases.

    Yes, technically pretty much all of the information you need is there. But the way it's formatted can be extremely hard to process for someone trying to get used to a job. AST is particularly bad in this sense, but it's true of a lot of jobs.

    Let's look at Arm's Length, for example:

    Creates a barrier nullifying most knockback and draw-in effects.
    Duration: 6s
    Additional Effect: Slow +20% when barrier is struck
    Duration: 15s
    First off, a lot of people read only the beginning of the tooltip, so more than a few may skip the Additional Effect section. But 'Slow +20% when barrier is struck.' is not intuitive to someone not already familiar with a lot of how the game phrases things. If you showed that to a completely new player, how do they know exactly what that means? Does it mean it slows you down when something hits the barrier, meaning it's a drawback to using the ability? What does 'Slow' even mean in this case? It means they move more slowly, right? So they couldn't catch up to you if you were running?

    Contrast that with:

    Creates a barrier against many knockback or draw-in effects, allowing you to remain in place and continue actions uninterrupted. In addition, if an opponent physically strikes the barrier, they will be momentarily disoriented; all their attacks will be slowed by 20% until they recover.
    Duration: barrier lasts 6s; effect applied to opponent lasts for 15s.
    Notes: The 'Slow' debuff does not affect movement speed, only attack speed. Barrier must be struck physically to apply Slow; magic-based attacks do not count.
    More verbose? Yes. Clearer and presumably easier for a newcomer to understand? Also yes. Hence why I think it might not be bad to have a key you can press to view an 'expanded' tooltip or something...

    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Wing View Post
    I would thumb this up but.....it's Tiny Toon Adventures, not Animaniacs.
    They're tiny lalafells,
    Their moral sense never gels,
    They'll wave their cheerful farewells
    As they stab you in the knee!

    ...wait, that's not how the song goes. Never mind.
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    Saturn Vitrell
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Wing View Post
    I would thumb this up but.....it's Tiny Toon Adventures, not Animaniacs.
    Thanks for the correction. Im embarrassed lol. I was thinking of Plucky but I donno why memories of Animanics got mashed along with it.
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    Godzillaxpowerrangers's Avatar
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    Ayatane Wolfblade
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    Cerberus
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    Reaper Lv 100
    I'll start with single attacks to get my two buffs up then I'll use my aoes.
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    Hycinthus's Avatar
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    Alonzo Vivas
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    Exodus
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaticDodo View Post
    This is genius. I wish that this wasn't attached to my part vitriolic, part feature request thread, but A+ man. You know whats up.
    If it’s in 6.0, then it can be integrated to Sharlayan University (since we are like 60% chance going to Sharlayan).

    If you complete the certification, you can get a furniture to hang on the wall showing your Sharlayan University certificate. Heck, roll it as part of the Job quest 80-90.
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    Player Anhra's Avatar
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    Anhra Nefaris
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    Omega
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Personally, i think those kind of people only exist because they managed to get this far without getting punished by the game for it, and since they didn't and won't be anytime soon, there is going to be even more of them in the near future, because difficulty, is almost nonexistent in Dungeons and 24 Man Raids (except maybe the Yorha raids).

    The most effective way of learning both gameplay and its optimisation in my opinion, is and has always been trial and error un any kind if video game, but unless you plan on joining savage or other hardcore content, you don't even need it because you know you will get away with it, even if you're a BLM spam chaining ice 2 into fire 2 in melee range.

    That's just my two cents on the matter, so try not taking it too seriously.
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    Player Ammokkx's Avatar
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    Khenda Chelae
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    I thought the punchline was going to be trusts again.

    Guess not.
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