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    I mean coming from someone who is new to tanking in general I dont always wall to wall pull, but I never single pull I usually pull around 3 groups at once. But I do understand the faustration of not AOE down targets when you have pulled even just 3 mobs at once, eventually cooldowns run out, then theres a period where youve used all your cool downs and waiting for one to come off. Kinda need DPS to kill the groups as quickly as they can xD
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    The duty finder whiner thread is still on the front page, bro. All the same a 35min dungeon sounds like there was more going on that just one MCH not aoeing lol.
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    I think a lot of you citing these "35 minute" runs are basically BSing. Single pulling in a Trust, with everyone but me single target DPSing, dungeons take about 25 minutes. So, I'm guessing that either a lot of you can't math very well, or you come up with these numbers because you don't think the truth will get you enough sympathy or make your point.

    Someone single targeting in a dungeon isn't a big deal.
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    Last edited by Goji1639; 01-18-2021 at 11:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    I think a lot of you citing these "35 minute" runs are basically BSing. Single pulling in a Trust, with everyone but me single target DPSing, dungeons take about 25 minutes maximum. So, I'm guessing that either a lot of you can't math very well, or you come up with these numbers because you don't think the truth will get you enough sympathy or make your point.

    Someone single targeting in a dungeon isn't a big deal.
    To me, 35 minutes isn't a huge deal anyway. As a tank, that's about how long my Trust dungeons run since Trusts forgot their AoE spells.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    To me, 35 minutes isn't a huge deal anyway. As a tank, that's about how long my Trust dungeons run since Trusts forgot their AoE spells.
    Tanking with trusts generally only takes me about 30 minutes at most, maybe because I still wall to wall and AoE them myself.

    The only time I really see 35 minute dungeons is if someone AFK's for 10 minutes and we all decide to be polite. I don't buy it happening as often as people around here act like it does; I think anytime someone has a disappointing run they come here, exaggerate the hell out of it and then wait for their pat on the head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    Tanking with trusts generally only takes me about 30 minutes at most, maybe because I still wall to wall and AoE them myself.

    The only time I really see 35 minute dungeons is if someone AFK's for 10 minutes and we all decide to be polite. I don't buy it happening as often as people around here act like it does; I think anytime someone has a disappointing run they come here, exaggerate the hell out of it and then wait for their pat on the head.
    I have trust issues () when it comes to running dungeons with NPCs. So I typically only pull a group at a time. I happily trade an extra 5-10 minutes for an added sense of security. With random people I pull wall to wall unless someone requests otherwise. Can't say I've ever had anyone ask me to pull less. I have, however, had to adapt to what the party as a whole is capable of every now and then.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 01-18-2021 at 11:38 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    I have trust issues () when it comes to running dungeons with NPCs. So I typically only pull a group at a time. I gladly trade an extra 5-10 minutes for an added sense of security.
    lol, I don't blame you. What my Trust groups like to do if I'm not paying enough attention is single target rip one of the mobs I'm pulling off me, and then stand there fighting it instead of following me.

    Still, most of the time it's faster and it makes Trusts a bit more exciting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
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    Almost all my runs with randoms run about 15minutes or so. Every now and again they push 20 but it's not even that common. So yeah either people are exaggerating like crazy or they're bad(worse than me LOL) and don't even realize it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hobostew View Post
    Almost all my runs with randoms run about 15minutes or so. Every now and again they push 20 but it's not even that common. So yeah either people are exaggerating like crazy or they're bad(worse than me LOL) and don't even realize it.
    30 minute dungeons or more aren't a common occurrence, at least in my experience. That is what makes them a bit more frustrating when it does happen because it's uncommon. I wouldn't call it straight up rare, but it's definitely not normal, even for this player base which is about as casual as one can get. Not a bad thing exactly (I'm a casual player too) just an observation. I do take my own performance in any given content seriously though. And I play. A lot. Probably too much. But it's okay.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 01-18-2021 at 11:44 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    Single pulling in a Trust, with everyone but me single target DPSing, dungeons take about 25 minutes. Someone single targeting in a dungeon isn't a big deal.
    Ironically, all of my trust runs went faster when I go in as a healer instead of DPS. About 2m-4m in difference.

    For a run to take 35m without players afk'ing or wipes, there has to be more problem going on than just 'one MCH barely AoEing.' It could be all member not keeping their GCD rolling. It could be one of them standing idly from time to time. It could be single pulling. It could be players messing up their rotation. It could be mixed of all mentioned case.
    OP did not mention which lv80 dungeon. I'd guess it's Amaurot since that dungeon's design makes it last a little longer than the other 80s but even that won't take a goddamn'ed 35m.
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