Level 80s who single target groups of mobs

[Vahlnir]

The game itself does a poor job of teaching people about certain situations. So firstly, I would blame the dev team for some of this issue. Sure, one could say "read your tooltips!" but...there's a portion of the player base that truly doesn't care. They will play how they want, even if how they play isn't really meant to be in a team setting. That is the other part of the problem. Yes, the game is supposed to be fun. That is what video games are for! And people should enjoy what they play. But when you enter a party of 3, 7 or 23 other people...it's about working together as a team for everyone's enjoyment. The "I'LL PLAY HOW I WANT!" mentality is left at the door, or at least it should be.

[van_arn]

The real question is why you tolerate people using single-target abilities on packs in a level 80 dungeon. Kick those people. They’re not new.

[technole]

The real question is why you tolerate people using single-target abilities on packs in a level 80 dungeon. Kick those people. They’re not new.

Yep, silent vote dismissal is the easiest solution. Most people know what's up if there is the one dead weight.

[AncientWillow]

Well sometimes there is one thing you want to kill fast before aoeing the rest, or in some classes like monk I want twin snakes up for the aoe, also its nice to dot 1st then aoe in my opinion. On paladin i single target after my aoe combo so i can build my mp back up for next big pull

[Absurdity]

Well sometimes there is one thing you want to kill fast before aoeing the rest, or in some classes like monk I want twin snakes up for the aoe, also its nice to dot 1st then aoe in my opinion. On paladin i single target after my aoe combo so i can build my mp back up for next big pull

What aoe combo are we talking about? Because your basic Total Eclipse -> Prominence combo already restores MP.

[AncientWillow]

What aoe combo are we talking about? Because your basic Total Eclipse -> Prominence combo already restores MP.

for 200mp on prominence is rlly shitty gathering more so when your team is wiping out things quick

quite honestly the aoe combo total-promin is kinda shitty after the pull initial like unless ur team are lazy you will only get 600 mp out of it so its much but to single target cuz 1st mp gther 1k-500-400x 3 is way better to quick gather with a decent team

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

for 200mp on prominence is rlly shitty gathering more so when your team is wiping out things quick

quite honestly the aoe combo total-promin is kinda shitty after the pull initial like unless ur team are lazy you will only get 600 mp out of it so its much but to single target cuz 1st mp gther 1k-500-400x 3 is way better to quick gather with a decent team

But Prominence gives +500 MP...

[Ultimatecalibur]

for 200mp on prominence is rlly shitty gathering more so when your team is wiping out things quick

quite honestly the aoe combo total-promin is kinda shitty after the pull initial like unless ur team are lazy you will only get 600 mp out of it so its much but to single target cuz 1st mp gther 1k-500-400x 3 is way better to quick gather with a decent team

Prominence is 500 mp or 250 mp per gcd 2 step combo (which is enough to fully restore your MP between Requiescat bursts when combined with natural regen and Spirits Within) while doing 170 potency per target (1020 against 6 targets) versus the ~366 MP and 450 per gcd of Royal Authority+Atonement. The single target rotation actually overgenerates MP in order to compensate for any time you need to disengage with a boss.

[Mavrias]

Well sometimes there is one thing you want to kill fast before aoeing the rest, or in some classes like monk I want twin snakes up for the aoe, also its nice to dot 1st then aoe in my opinion. On paladin i single target after my aoe combo so i can build my mp back up for next big pull

Not in level 80 trash pulls there's not.

You use AoE> twin snakes >AoE >continuously AoE at 80. Thats one single target attack total.

Dotting in trash is a dps loss for all jobs except BRD and by a technicality, SMN.

Your physical AoE combo on PLD generates MP.

[Lauront]

There's things you want to kill fast (one with such trash which comes to mind is Amaurot) but nothing that can't be managed by the tank, healer or dps, and the loss of dps just isn't worth it, so it's still better to AOE. Nevermind the latest dungeons, which are a cakewalk. There's no real excuse not to AOE unless the dungeon is forcing you not to... looking at you, Anamnesis Anyder. Anyway it's rather clear from the OP that this doesn't fit those kind of examples which you bring up, of occasional ST ability use. This is just a case of bad form.