I appear to have already missed the boat on bozja

[Driavna]

They are probably waiting for 5.45 to fix anything, if there's plans to fix Castrum at all. Even so, that'd be too little too late. Maybe they will add a story mode version of it like they are for the raid in the next area. Who knows.

In my opinion SE is hoping people go back to farm all the stuff necessary to make the new BA easier. This time around in special since you can only que as a premade and certain requirements are going to be set by party leaders for sure. Of course I could be wrong and all that stuff is also drop from the normal mode too.

[LaylaTsarra]

They are probably waiting for 5.45 to fix anything, if there's plans to fix Castrum at all. Even so, that'd be too little too late. Maybe they will add a story mode version of it like they are for the raid in the next area. Who knows.

I would hope so but honestly I was expecting a fix for 5.4 and nothing. It can't be a major job to adjust the rewards to make running the content more desirable. I've taken my main and a number of my alts through the content with Castrum so I'm not new to the content. I've also had quite a bit of experience with Discord and BA but sadly this content doesn't need or shouldn't need an outside group to get people through it. It just needs a reward fix for which the developers seem to be unwilling to give at this point.

[Colt47]

The problems with Bazja:

1) Lets make the relic weapon grind possible outside of Bazja.
2) People need Mettle? Naw, just keep that in the fates, no one needs Mettle from beating castrum.
3) Holy crap we need how many to breach the front gates?!
4) Underwhelming rewards. I mean I still want my robot mount from clusters but I can't even get anyone to do it.
5) Duels...

[Vahlnir]

The problems with Bazja:

1) Lets make the relic weapon grind possible outside of Bazja.
2) People need Mettle? Naw, just keep that in the fates, no one needs Mettle from beating castrum.
3) Holy crap we need how many to breach the front gates?!
4) Underwhelming rewards. I mean I still want my robot mount from clusters but I can't even get anyone to do it.
5) Duels...

I think the biggest issue with the relic weapon grind is that they made the rewards outside of Bozja better than the ones actually in the instance. You can do 60 fates in HW total and have what you need. You can then do 6 dungeons (Antitower is usually the go-to) in rapid succession and be done after that. All in a few hours if you hit the grind hard enough. In that time while grinding in Bozja for hours upon hours longer...you might have half of the memories needed for part one. Maybe. Probably less than half. And you might have 2 or 3 Bitter memories for part two if you have completed part one. That is not okay. I think that the rewards need to be at LEAST equal on the outside and inside for the amount of time spent, though I do feel that they should be slightly better in the content they came from.

[Jennah]

My hope is that they've *finally* realized that player feedback on Bozja/Eureka has been so overwhelmingly negative that they've just pretty much given up on it, and are focusing on something better for 6.0.
Even if that something better is giving us multiple dungeons/trials per patch again and no 'experimental' content (Heck. I think I'd prefer that, given how a lot of experimental stuff comes out either half-baked, or drops off the face of Hydaelyn after one patch.)

My fear is that they've learned nothing, and 6.0 ... uh, 6.35 ... is just going to bring us the Mozjan Southeastern Front, and things will be the same or worse.

[Vahlnir]

My hope is that they've *finally* realized that player feedback on Bozja/Eureka has been so overwhelmingly negative that they've just pretty much given up on it, and are focusing on something better for 6.0.
Even if that something better is giving us multiple dungeons/trials per patch again and no 'experimental' content (Heck. I think I'd prefer that, given how a lot of experimental stuff comes out either half-baked, or drops off the face of Hydaelyn after one patch.)

My fear is that they've learned nothing, and 6.0 ... uh, 6.35 ... is just going to bring us the Mozjan Southeastern Front, and things will be the same or worse.

They probably have their content schedule so for better or worse...we will have Bozja up until the final patch of Shadowbringers. Hopefully they build on the feedback they've received until then.

[SturmChurro]

My hope is that they've *finally* realized that player feedback on Bozja/Eureka has been so overwhelmingly negative that they've just pretty much given up on it, and are focusing on something better for 6.0.
Even if that something better is giving us multiple dungeons/trials per patch again and no 'experimental' content (Heck. I think I'd prefer that, given how a lot of experimental stuff comes out either half-baked, or drops off the face of Hydaelyn after one patch.)

My fear is that they've learned nothing, and 6.0 ... uh, 6.35 ... is just going to bring us the Mozjan Southeastern Front, and things will be the same or worse.

Borzja/Eureka has been very popular. Actually the feedback here is that people want better rewards for the content (Castrum), and the feedback I've seen about borzja has been pretty much positive. I went into borzja the other day, there were 2-3 full instances and one growing. Highly doubt this will happen.

[Jin-]

I got in to the Castrum a bit after I gained rank 10 yesterday . We rallied and also begged people to join hehe. Eventually we were like 30 players. Almost did not have time to finish the last boss due to so many people dying constantly. Glad we had 5 healers in our group

[Shougun]

The problems with Bazja:

1) Lets make the relic weapon grind possible outside of Bazja.
2) People need Mettle? Naw, just keep that in the fates, no one needs Mettle from beating castrum.
3) Holy crap we need how many to breach the front gates?!
4) Underwhelming rewards. I mean I still want my robot mount from clusters but I can't even get anyone to do it.
5) Duels...

1) Was done by request, I don't think there is anything wrong with this and honestly am fine they continue to do this (for 3.0 Eureka). People didn't want to have to do Eureka, and now Bozja is less popular because people didn't want to have to do said content.. and now aren't doing it- just means that people ... didn't want to do it.. lol. Besides you can also progress in Bozja, and get other goodies at the same time, also people pointed out certain tasks progress far faster than others which lessens some of the difference issues people initially pointed out between FATEs and Bozja (farming specific things in Bozja provides different rates) - so if you have the mind for Bozja it's not a bad choice (not saying it couldn't be a bit more rewarding in comparison if they really wanted but actively making FATEs a terrible choice which is what I see people wanting, I don't think that's great - especially as Bozja already offers things on top of relic progress, maybe a slight buff but it doesn't need to be better than FATEs AND also offer other things better than FATEs making the FATE choice a hand me down / awful choice). They can tweak rates here and there but just want to say issue 1 is not an issue, it was a feature that many had wanted. The aggressiveness, or alternative repercussions may be examined but.. "it is what it is". If people didn't want to do said content and SE said "fine" and now people are not doing it.. well.. don't color me surprised lol. Of course there are some who would like to have the best relic progress and get to do Bozja, and maybe there is a buff in there to help but I don't think it being 'the best' is required given Bozja has many other things going for it that FATEs do not.

This type of content is both popular and not. Some people love it, some people hate it. Both groups would like to do relic. SE delivered upon that.

2) Sounds like a flaw, especially given it's an important step that needs to be done for progression. If anything the content should be more forgiving than the other areas (easier and or requires less people / scales dynamically) or more rewarding, there are a lot of potential options.

3) Mentioned in essence by a few people here but I've been quietly wondering what Japan servers look like, if they've no issue it seems like our problem would be less concerned over as it's working fine there AND I find SE has difficulty addressing things dynamically (in say for example one data center may perform worse than another, it may be wise for one data center to get echo or whatever have you fix earlier than another given certain data, meanwhile another is still chugging along fine and it makes little sense).

4) Was sort of mentioned before, though not in context of the particular part of content, but perhaps this area's reward can be things like lockboxes with less item filler in them lol. Higher chance for the actual of value stuff, and just less potential obvious filler in general (sweet 10 gil fireworks), at such a rate to make it worth while.

5) I wonder if they could make dynamic instances (phasing) so far more players could duel at once, would be nice to not phase one person though so you can still watch if you wanted (rather than one it's like 1/3 of all participants get offered). If they're reaaallly clever they could have the phases shift in and out, so those who are not picked could see multiple fights at once (some wacky coding going on). Something like watching an anime fight lol.

[Iscah]

Borzja/Eureka has been very popular. Actually the feedback here is that people want better rewards for the content (Castrum), and the feedback I've seen about borzja has been pretty much positive. I went into borzja the other day, there were 2-3 full instances and one growing. Highly doubt this will happen.

The problem with judging content's popularity by how many people are doing it is that there is no indication of why they are doing it, especially when it is invariably incentivised with exclusive rewards.

Are people doing Bozja because they enjoy it, or because they're worried about getting locked out of relic progress without it? Are they just here for the exclusive, untradeable glamour and hating every minute of it?

I have to wonder how the balance of people doing content would look if everything gave the same kind of currency and all the rewards went into a single shop. What content would people actually choose to do when they're not being railroaded into specific content for specific rewards?