Heal more instead of dpsing

[Gmot]

As a healer main, I normally agree. However, I was running Matoya's as a DNC, I kid you not, she did not heal anyone. I stayed on half health and healed myself for a majority of the boss fights (which also led me to die once due to having to get a vuln stack since she refused to move for something and I had to change directions.) She would let the tank ht maybe 10k health on pulls before she'd stop casting DPS spells. Sometimes, honestly, stop DPSing and heal more.

~ Sincerely, a healer since 2016.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

As a healer main, I normally agree. However, I was running Matoya's as a DNC, I kid you not, she did not heal anyone. I stayed on half health and healed myself for a majority of the boss fights (which also led me to die once due to having to get a vuln stack since she refused to move for something and I had to change directions.) She would let the tank ht maybe 10k health on pulls before she'd stop casting DPS spells. Sometimes, honestly, stop DPSing and heal more.

~ Sincerely, a healer since 2016.

Well it’s not like the OP is anything close to this healer you were matched with. I do have to admit that Matoya’s Relict incoming damage is very pushover—even moreso than any previously released lv80 dungeon in my opinion. It’s quite hard to resist the temptation to -not- squeeze in every bit DPS spells possible before turning my attention to tank’s health, especially when the tank is also doing their job wonderfully. Besides the porxie suction phase & 1st day of 5.4, I don’t think I have ever seen any deaths in said dungeon.

[Jukebox12]

As a healer main, I normally agree. However, I was running Matoya's as a DNC, I kid you not, she did not heal anyone. I stayed on half health and healed myself for a majority of the boss fights (which also led me to die once due to having to get a vuln stack since she refused to move for something and I had to change directions.) She would let the tank ht maybe 10k health on pulls before she'd stop casting DPS spells. Sometimes, honestly, stop DPSing and heal more.

~ Sincerely, a healer since 2016.

did you or anyone die?

[Dogempire]

Eh, honestly with these DF groups the only thing you can really do is make sure you're standing in bubbles or next to the healer, or at least near them if you want to be healed. If you miss the initial star, don't stand in bubbles, don't stand in range of medica or fairy regen, then any healing after that is pretty much the healer being nice instead of letting you die because you're being a nuisance standing too far away refusing to be healed.

That being said, I don't 100% trust DF healers so I tend to pop my own mitigation/heals when it looks like I'm going to die to raidwides or unavoidable damage, difference being that 95 times out of 100 it would have been fine regardless of if I popped anything or not, but I still prefer to play it safe out of habit

[Atmaweapon510]

did you or anyone die?

They literally said they died once.

[Styrmwyda]

My opinion, DPS, but don't let your party go below, lets say, 20% health. Basically, don't let them die.

[Gmot]

did you or anyone die?

Why yes, I did. I even said so.

[Kabooa]

As a healer main, I normally agree. However, I was running Matoya's as a DNC, I kid you not, she did not heal anyone. I stayed on half health and healed myself for a majority of the boss fights (which also led me to die once due to having to get a vuln stack since she refused to move for something and I had to change directions.) She would let the tank ht maybe 10k health on pulls before she'd stop casting DPS spells. Sometimes, honestly, stop DPSing and heal more.

~ Sincerely, a healer since 2016.

Matoya is a bad example, given that the damage going out is so low, and it serves as the primary example of the problem. Warriors can solo heal the entire thing without breaking a sweat, and while this is doable in other dungeons, its particularly effortless in Matoyas.

[Dogempire]

Matoya is a bad example, given that the damage going out is so low, and it serves as the primary example of the problem. Warriors can solo heal the entire thing without breaking a sweat, and while this is doable in other dungeons, its particularly effortless in Matoyas.

You can get by pretty easily with minimal healing on DRK as well, can't say much for PLD/GNB since I don't play those 2 much

[Saefinn]

For those who complain when HP drops below 50%, our healing toolkit is literally designed in a way that it rewards us for letting people get that low. Excogitation, Essential Dignity and Benediction all favour people whose HP has dropped.

Complain if they healer can't keep people alive, then you know their balance is wrong - or try to find out why they're struggling and help address it because we all benefit from an attitude of helping rather than one of scolding. If nobody dies, then they're doing a good job?

The worst is when ranged phys dps(almost always the mch) constantly stand faaar outside the group and the healing aoes, and complain when they die to raid wides.

I've actually developed a bit of a bias against ranged because of it, i feel like alot of people flock to the role thinking they can have less responsibility because they have no positionals or cast times. And for some reason they think they don't need to position themselves properly for heals and use their mitigation to help out the healers.

I even had a mch static member in E3s, who sat in melee spot because we had 3 ranged, and forced our poor BLM to do all the moving for black smokers, no joke.
And of course he complained in E4S because he kept dying due to not being topped off after he stood away from my earthly stars and our sch soils.

It got so bad that i just stopped bothering to beg him to move in and just started rescuing him lol

I feel this. I plan my Earthly Stars with the intention of letting people's health drop. It's the strongest AoE heal in the game, I'm going to want to see some health drop. It's more frustrating when it's the tank lol. Heal bubbles are put down for a purpose (as are DPS ones too). Given Earthly Star deals damage I need to put it down rather than reserve it and you can't always time it for when you really need it but you can let people's health drop so the heal aspect is not wasted.

I play a ranged job for DPS, but try stay within AoE heal range. But then as a healer, I know the rage lol.