Heal more instead of dpsing

[Whelan]

I completely agree. Far too often I see Vercure or Clemency being cast when the tank falls near 50%. I have so many tools as a SCH to bring your health back up quickly. And at level 80, I am intimately familiar with them all. People should trust their healers until something goes wrong.

This is especially an issue when fighting against bosses. For most of the content, I have bosses pretty well memorized. AoE coming...tankbuster...etc. I know when it is impossible for a dps to take damage and when there are lulls for tanks. I use those times to damage, position for the next attack, or shield those who are actually in danger. Your health bar at 80% can wait.

[Gemina]

While I agree with you 100% OP, you still have to understand that you're running content where such optimization is not only not required, it can be outright shunned in many groups. This doesn't mean that you should change up your playstyle to appease others, or to say that anyone is right or wrong in this situation. What I do want to say is that you still do have a choice. You don't have to roll with these kind of players if you don't want to, and you can abandon the duty. I know you're venting, and it totally sucks to be grouped with players of an opposing mindset, but I feel taking the penalty to be a lesser punishment than dealing with strong adversity for any longer than a couple of minutes. If you are the kind of player that does a lot of other things, then I strongly recommend this if it does happen again in the future.

[Ftail]

While I agree with you 100% OP, you still have to understand that you're running content where such optimization is not only not required, it can be outright shunned in many groups. This doesn't mean that you should change up your playstyle to appease others, or to say that anyone is right or wrong in this situation. What I do want to say is that you still do have a choice. You don't have to roll with these kind of players if you don't want to, and you can abandon the duty. I know you're venting, and it totally sucks to be grouped with players of an opposing mindset, but I feel taking the penalty to be a lesser punishment than dealing with strong adversity for any longer than a couple of minutes. If you are the kind of player that does a lot of other things, then I strongly recommend this if it does happen again in the future.

I didn’t stay to argue with the guy and potentially get in trouble with a GM, I just left.

[LeonKeyh]

If it's a random group, they don't know you and what you can do. We show them that by the actions we take and by showing that we can be depended upon. You're showing that you don't have their back and that they have something to be nervous about.

Take your ego out of the equation and just heal them.

I disagree. The fact of the matter is that healing is binary, if they didn't die, the healer did fine. If nobody died (ignoring people who did stupid things like stood in AEs), then the healer is adequate. It doesn't matter that people are "worried" about dropping low in health, they need to get over it. It's not like dying in this game means that you lose anything but a few minutes to get back to where you were.

Now, if the tank died or the DPS died (again, outside of standing in avoidable damage), THEN they have the right to request to be healed more. But requesting to be healed because you're scared that your health is too low is not ok.

[FluffyFang]

Newbie thinking: Healer job is to keep everyone at full health all the time. Healer has failed if anyone dies for any reason except for OHKO situations. Healer attacking is unnecessary and distracting.
What I would settle for people thinking: Healer job is to keep everyone above what I think the raid-wide damage threshold is at all times. Sweat profusely if tank uses invuln. Good run, felt like I did more damage than usual.
What I want them to think: No one doing the mechanics correctly died. Oh hey, that was actually a pretty fast run; maybe it was the Holy spam.

[ForteNightshade]

If it's a random group, they don't know you and what you can do. We show them that by the actions we take and by showing that we can be depended upon. You're showing that you don't have their back and that they have something to be nervous about.

Take your ego out of the equation and just heal them.

That isn't having their back. It's kowtowing to how they perceive you should play. You aren't showing them anything except how "right" their stance was. It isn't a question of egos but someone else dictating how you should perform. Your job as a healer is to keep the party of alive and DPS otherwise. So long as you accomplish that, you've done your job. It doesn't matter if the tank dropped to 20%, 55% or 90%. They lived through the pull and we continued onto the next. Them being nervous isn't my problem nor do I have to adjust how I play to accommodate said nerves.

[Satarn]

If it's a random group, they don't know you and what you can do. We show them that by the actions we take and by showing that we can be depended upon. You're showing that you don't have their back and that they have something to be nervous about.

Take your ego out of the equation and just heal them.

Idk man, sounds like you're trying to enforce a playstyle, which is apparently a punishable offense under the current ToS btw.

[technole]

i think it was Cinder Drift NM but some random RDM complained saying "I guess I'll heal myself" when they were 75% HP, which they did. I just responded paper cut. There isn't another AoE for another minute so you wait for lily, and not this whole full-at-all-times these newbies have in their heads.

Eventually they died on their own accord to some other mechanic, so that was that.

This goes all the way to end game like savage, DPS tend to be the biggest chads to healers, bar none. Outside of heal range, not standing in bubbles kind of things.

[BlueMageQuina]

“Heal more”—makes me want to heal less, and often I do.
Vercure/Clemency—makes me want to heal less, and often I do.

The most annoyed I have been recently was when Memoria Ex came out. The DPS/heal/tank check between phases, we had a tank whose controller died so we died. A DPS immediately blamed me. “Heal more, you’re only casting Glare.” Well, yes. Because you’re already under both Asylum and Medica II, and all my subsequent heals are instant. Do you not see the Plenary and Rapture procs? That’s me...

The other healer was an Astro and wasn’t majorly healing at all because they were just sitting under their CU. When the tank came clean, there was no apology.

It’s players like this that make me not want to heal. If you call someone out on their healing, and least know their class enough to know that they truly aren’t healing.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

“Heal more”—makes me want to heal less, and often I do.
Vercure/Clemency—makes me want to heal less, and often I do.
If you call someone out on their healing, and least know their class enough to know that they truly aren’t healing.

Personally I tend to react positively if whoever pleading for more healing or planned healing would mention the spell/abilities name, like: "Can you use [Essential Dignity] for <insert part>" ; "Can you save [Benediction] for <insert part>" ; "Can you take out seraph at <insert part>".
Simply asking for more healing, especially if I'm actually already doing the most fundamental healing requirement would just deter me from healing.