Heal more instead of dpsing

[Ftail]

I’m so sick and tired of the fools who tell to me to, “Heal more instead of dpsing”. If I let the tank die in a leveling dungeon, fine, feel free to to tell me that. When I use benediction when the tank is at 20%-30% hp, that is planned, not panicked. When I’m in a leveling dungeon and I let the tank drop to 40%-50% hp to combine an afflatus spell with an OGCD and get the tank back to full that is not me panicking. If the tank spams clemency or a red mage vecure, because they don’t want him near 50% hp, I’m still going to wait for the tank to drop down to about 20%-30% to bene him. That’s the tanks and dps’s choice to not trust their healer. Wait until someone dies to start berating the healer, seriously.


Ironically a physical ranged DPS set me off and not a tank or a red mage. Props to the tank who pm'd me afterwards to tell me he appreciated me after I left. Sorry for the thread, I just really needed to rant.

[SiriusSaltstice]

How dare you know your kit well to dish out damage while being able to keep an eye on hp to give efficiently timed heals.

[Ursa_Vonfiebryd]

I’m so sick and tired of the fools who tell to me to, “Heal more instead of dpsing”. If I let the tank die in a leveling dungeon, fine, feel free to to tell me that. When I use benediction when the tank is at 20%-30% hp, that is planned, not panicked. When I’m in a leveling dungeon and I let the tank drop to 40%-50% hp to combine an afflatus spell with an OGCD and get the tank back to full that is not me panicking. If the tank spams clemency or a red mage vecure, because they don’t want him near 50% hp, I’m still going to wait for the tank to drop down to about 20%-30% to bene him. That’s the tanks and dps’s choice to not trust their healer. Wait until someone dies to start berating the healer, seriously.


Ironically a physical ranged DPS set me off and not a tank or a red mage. Props to the tank who pm'd me afterwards to tell me he appreciated me after I left. Sorry for the thread, I just really needed to rant.

For a while, at least last expac--didn't really see this in ShB as much, many healers prioritized damage over healing because that was basically the expectation. I had quite a few tanks ask me flat out (as healer) to please keep them healed and they were grateful for the assurance that I prioritized healing over damage. As a dps, I can't tell you how many times an over-pull in a leveling dungeon ended in a wipe. A lot of people get nervous if they see the tank low or see-sawing--whether you have control over the situation or not.

However if no one died then there's really no cause for complaint. Their nervousness is not your problem but I would have probably thrown them a heal as rdm as well because low tanks in leveling dungeons especially are just asking for a wipe.

[Valkyrie_]

The worst is when ranged phys dps(almost always the mch) constantly stand faaar outside the group and the healing aoes, and complain when they die to raid wides.

I've actually developed a bit of a bias against ranged because of it, i feel like alot of people flock to the role thinking they can have less responsibility because they have no positionals or cast times. And for some reason they think they don't need to position themselves properly for heals and use their mitigation to help out the healers.

I even had a mch static member in E3s, who sat in melee spot because we had 3 ranged, and forced our poor BLM to do all the moving for black smokers, no joke.
And of course he complained in E4S because he kept dying due to not being topped off after he stood away from my earthly stars and our sch soils.

It got so bad that i just stopped bothering to beg him to move in and just started rescuing him lol

[Saefinn]

For those who complain when HP drops below 50%, our healing toolkit is literally designed in a way that it rewards us for letting people get that low. Excogitation, Essential Dignity and Benediction all favour people whose HP has dropped.

Complain if they healer can't keep people alive, then you know their balance is wrong - or try to find out why they're struggling and help address it because we all benefit from an attitude of helping rather than one of scolding. If nobody dies, then they're doing a good job?

The worst is when ranged phys dps(almost always the mch) constantly stand faaar outside the group and the healing aoes, and complain when they die to raid wides.

I've actually developed a bit of a bias against ranged because of it, i feel like alot of people flock to the role thinking they can have less responsibility because they have no positionals or cast times. And for some reason they think they don't need to position themselves properly for heals and use their mitigation to help out the healers.

I even had a mch static member in E3s, who sat in melee spot because we had 3 ranged, and forced our poor BLM to do all the moving for black smokers, no joke.
And of course he complained in E4S because he kept dying due to not being topped off after he stood away from my earthly stars and our sch soils.

It got so bad that i just stopped bothering to beg him to move in and just started rescuing him lol

I feel this. I plan my Earthly Stars with the intention of letting people's health drop. It's the strongest AoE heal in the game, I'm going to want to see some health drop. It's more frustrating when it's the tank lol. Heal bubbles are put down for a purpose (as are DPS ones too). Given Earthly Star deals damage I need to put it down rather than reserve it and you can't always time it for when you really need it but you can let people's health drop so the heal aspect is not wasted.

I play a ranged job for DPS, but try stay within AoE heal range. But then as a healer, I know the rage lol.

[TaleraRistain]

If it's a random group, they don't know you and what you can do. We show them that by the actions we take and by showing that we can be depended upon. You're showing that you don't have their back and that they have something to be nervous about.

Take your ego out of the equation and just heal them.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

If it's a random group, they don't know you and what you can do. We show them that by the actions we take and by showing that we can be depended upon.

^ This.
Honestly, if you can pull off an efficient healing while dishing out DPS, that is wonderful. But randoms are simply...randoms. And sometimes they don't quite understand how powerful healer's kits & pushover the incoming damage in some dungeons. Having never played any healer/tank classes may also explain their anxiety.

It got so bad that i just stopped bothering to beg him to move in and just started rescuing him lol

One of the merits of playing with premade groups is how easy mistakes like this to be fixed by... a simple communication.
If it's with randoms, 1-3 first tries (i.e. single target heal them or with [Rescue]) are usually my limit before I switch to "You ain't coming here? No heals for you >:U".
One would say that a simple communication with randoms may also fix the problem. While that might be true, personally I'd not do that to avoid the possible 'you don't tell me what to do!'-attitude.

[LeonKeyh]

If it's a random group, they don't know you and what you can do. We show them that by the actions we take and by showing that we can be depended upon. You're showing that you don't have their back and that they have something to be nervous about.

Take your ego out of the equation and just heal them.

I disagree. The fact of the matter is that healing is binary, if they didn't die, the healer did fine. If nobody died (ignoring people who did stupid things like stood in AEs), then the healer is adequate. It doesn't matter that people are "worried" about dropping low in health, they need to get over it. It's not like dying in this game means that you lose anything but a few minutes to get back to where you were.

Now, if the tank died or the DPS died (again, outside of standing in avoidable damage), THEN they have the right to request to be healed more. But requesting to be healed because you're scared that your health is too low is not ok.

[ForteNightshade]

If it's a random group, they don't know you and what you can do. We show them that by the actions we take and by showing that we can be depended upon. You're showing that you don't have their back and that they have something to be nervous about.

Take your ego out of the equation and just heal them.

That isn't having their back. It's kowtowing to how they perceive you should play. You aren't showing them anything except how "right" their stance was. It isn't a question of egos but someone else dictating how you should perform. Your job as a healer is to keep the party of alive and DPS otherwise. So long as you accomplish that, you've done your job. It doesn't matter if the tank dropped to 20%, 55% or 90%. They lived through the pull and we continued onto the next. Them being nervous isn't my problem nor do I have to adjust how I play to accommodate said nerves.

[Satarn]

If it's a random group, they don't know you and what you can do. We show them that by the actions we take and by showing that we can be depended upon. You're showing that you don't have their back and that they have something to be nervous about.

Take your ego out of the equation and just heal them.

Idk man, sounds like you're trying to enforce a playstyle, which is apparently a punishable offense under the current ToS btw.