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[Nickvrad]

Hello, I would like to ask you to rename the Paladin skill Holy Spirit, as it is offensive for us Christians Orthodox to see the name of my God to be used as an attack method in a game.

[ItMe]

I'm sorry but the word "holy" is not christian specific.
In fact, the word actually predates the christian religion believe it or not.
They don't own it, they've merely adopted it and share custody with many other religions.

Fun fact: it's original definition is basically impossible to determine due to the extreme age of the word, but it's thought to have been approximately "that must be preserved whole or intact, that cannot be transgressed or violated."

The word "spirit" is also not christian specific, but I assume that's not what you're upset with despite the fact that you didn't also mention the PLD skill Holy Circle.

[Tlamila]

Nice troll post, that was quite a good laugh.

[Ftail]

Nickvrad is an obvious troll so obviously a hard no to his request. But when you separate the words “Holy Spirit” they change their meaning. An example of what I mean is if we had an attack called “Liberty Mutual” which is the name of an insurance company. Sure Liberty and Mutual have been around a heck of a lot longer than the insurance company, but when combined together like that people will assume you are talking about the insurance company.

[Cidel]

When you only have PLD to 51 (and unlocked SAM) and try to start a controversial topic with a clickbait title. Smells of a sock-puppet account trolling.



Move along folks and let this thread sink to the bottom.

[Ftail]

My ex was a Hindu who used to pray to shiiva are we going to change her name next? Sure Catholics may pray to the Holy Spirit but I don’t see people of other religions complaining, but then again this is an obvious troll post.

[Kuroka]

The sad thing is even if thats bait, there are really ppl like that >_>

[HyoMinPark]

Your argument lost me at “false religions”. Was your implication that other religions aren’t “real” or “valid” simply because their teachings vary from your own? Just a quick search of the term “false religion” brings up articles criticizing any religion that isn’t Christianity. Were you really trying to imply that religions that aren’t your own are “false”? Or “the devil’s way of penetrating the human soul” (a legitimate explanation from one of these articles I read when searching that term)? Because that’s how that phrasing came off to me. If so, then I’m sorry, that’s not really your call to make. To say such is to imply that you are intolerant, and I was always taught that Christianity was supposed to preach love, tolerance, and acceptance of others. Even when their beliefs differed from your own. But, who knows. Perhaps I am wrong.

Either way, this game cannot cater to everyone. Just because your religion deems calling an attack spell inappropriate doesn’t mean every religion thinks that way. Considering the origin of this game comes from a country whose primary religion is Shintoism, you cannot expect it to cater to Orthodox Christianity. That is simply unreasonable. It’s unreasonable to ask it to cater to any specific religion. Or even every single one of them.

Wikipedia, while a peer-edited source, can also link to legitimate sources cited within any given article. Though I fail to see where Wikipedia was even mentioned by anyone other than yourself.

[Iscah]

Your argument lost me at “false religions”. Was your implication that other religions aren’t “real” or “valid” simply because their teachings vary from your own?

If you believe with certainty that your religion is true then there is no logical room for other religions to be anything but false.

And yes, even if the word "holy" is generic, "Holy Spirit" has a very specific Christian meaning - the third aspect of God or the Holy Trinity, alongside father-creator God and redeemer Jesus. It's the aspect that "goes into" and works through people.

That said - while I'm sure that's where they got the attack name from, I doubt they put much thought into it. It hardly fits the context and you can treat it as a generic spell name. And I don't believe Christianity has any more right to being protective of its terms and mythology than any other religion, because from an outside perspective it's just another religion and it might be one of the false ones. (And I say this as a Christian, though perhaps an unusually questioning one.)

The game is a grab-bag of mythological references and this is just one more. Not to mention the ongoing narrative thread that all the gods may be false, up to and including our apparent creator-goddess.

[Payadopa]

Not to mention the fact that religions are made-up by humans to explain stuff away that you otherwise couldn't or dictate how the masses should behave. We don't need that anymore. We have science and capitalism for that respectively.

I find religions silly at best, rivaling the wildest anime. People already believe everything the read on Twitter and FB so imagine how ot must have been a few thousand years ago. lol How anyone can take that seriously is beyond me.