Feast Training, Dueling, Frontlines.

[StilyerPro]

I see what's your opinion on training, because I can sit in que for 3 plus hours without a pop sometimes, and I'm surprised at how hard it is to get 8 players to que for it?

[BloodRubyXII]

I see what's your opinion on training, because I can sit in que for 3 plus hours without a pop sometimes, and I'm surprised at how hard it is to get 8 players to que for it?

Joining the PvPaissa discord is a good way to know when things are popping or if there's scrims/customs going (see sig - alternatively https://discord.gg/sUy86UC).

If you are in queue for 3 hours, you are queueing when a lot of the vets have decided not to get things moving that evening due to playing other games or raiding (remember there's still people clearing and raid times coincide with what would normally be active feast hours). I streamed training queue for almost 4 hours today, customs for 3 hours yesterday and training again for around 2 hours a couple of nights ago on two DCs. There have been streams from Primal and Crystal also, I would say Aether is the one DC falling behind. Red are all pvp streams, and this is from an 11 day window.


Also people continue to recommend rank decay like it's going to make an ounce of difference because it's only going to affect those at the top who will just play their decay matches (and on EU - most of our top 20 tend to play anyone both during and outside of seasons), it still isn't going to make the lower tiers which need the most help any more active. It's scary that there's people who have played for years and still haven't grasped this concept, there needs to be a reason for people to play rather than forcing them, and the reality is there's very little to gain in-season and virtually nothing at all outside the top 100.

DrWho is spot on btw.

[Astrophysx]

Joining the PvPaissa discord is a good way to know when things are popping or if there's scrims/customs going (see sig - alternatively https://discord.gg/sUy86UC).

It's scary that there's people who have played for years and still haven't grasped this concept, there needs to be a reason for people to play rather than forcing them, and the reality is there's very little to gain in-season and virtually nothing at all outside the top 100.

I agree with you on giving players a reason to play without forcing them, but where I disagree (respectfully) is on the concept of rank decay.

Most competitive games have rank decay to encourage continued participation, and it will keep those in the Top 100 engaged. Another added benefit is that it discourages RMT/wintrading (or at least make it more difficult). As such, I feel it's much needed for Feast ranked queue.

In regards to the lower tiers, (my opinion, which I assume is the same as yours) it's a matter of game design and whether-or-not the game mode is enjoyable to the general FFXIV player base. The caveat here is that game design (or game development in general) is difficult, and giving what players want is not always the best way of doing things, I'm sure the devs know this. Regardless, I think Feast must be developed into something that almost everyone within the FFXIV community will enjoy without relying heavily on providing what players want.

Feast IMO is NOT an enjoyable game mode to the general FFXIV community. It is stressful, it lacks DEPTH, and it is NOT easy to understand. For example, most players don't know that you win matches by picking up medals. Non-healers pick up Wolves Heart with no idea of what it does. There is no chat available for seasoned players to mentor newer players (except for custom matches). The concept of bursts, mitigations, and positioning are alien to most. Netcode is bad within this game... and it makes it worse for PvP. The culture in FFXIV seems to be more anti-PvP than it is to actually support the idea of improving it. The list goes on.

Because of this, Feast will continue lacking in participation unless there is some kind of reward or incentive to queue the game mode... I personally want to see it queued because it's FUN.

Feast needs some love. Until then, lets see what the new PvP game mode will provide. XD