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    Lore Cutscenes request

    Why does FFXIV no longer have cutscenes like the one at the end of coil? Flames of Truth, quite honestly it was super cool and having those always makes me get all hyped up. I realize they're probably expensive to make but some or one per expansion might be a great addition imo.
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    use of the visual arts studio requires pretty much things be requested about a year in advance and it usually can't be changed easily. also it's a giant cost. it's why they're mainly reserved for trailer use for expansions and that's it.
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    What you're looking for are full motion videos (FMVs), cutscenes made out of engine. Due to the cost involved in making these, outside of intros and endings FMVs are used sparingly in games these days - even VII:R only has a handful. It's much more cost effective to make cutscenes in-engine.

    ... and, since this game doesn't really have an "ending" proper (yet, anyway) it's entirely understandable the only FMVs it regularly gets are the expansion intros. Hell, even "Flames of Truth" is ultimately just an extension of the 1.X ending cutscene.

    FMVs are a nice treat, but never expect one to show up outside of the intro and ending.
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    The biggest thing is that they can't be personalised. You'd never get an FMV that includes your character like the in-game cutscenes do.

    Also, personally I don't actually like FMVs that much. The characters often seem to be off-model and I'd rather see a well-animated scene with the normal game graphics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    What you're looking for are full motion videos (FMVs), cutscenes made out of engine. Due to the cost involved in making these, outside of intros and endings FMVs are used sparingly in games these days - even VII:R only has a handful. It's much more cost effective to make cutscenes in-engine.

    ... and, since this game doesn't really have an "ending" proper (yet, anyway) it's entirely understandable the only FMVs it regularly gets are the expansion intros. Hell, even "Flames of Truth" is ultimately just an extension of the 1.X ending cutscene.

    FMVs are a nice treat, but never expect one to show up outside of the intro and ending.
    ^This. In particular, the ARR 'End of an Era/New Beginning/'Flames of Truth' (the Coil ending) trailer apparently alone cost SE Visual Works over $3 million US to produce (of course given how successful ARR has been and continues to be, that cost ended up being made back quickly, thus making it money well spent).

    Also, specifically in regards to Coil, the whole raid series itself was meant to be the resolution to what was shown in End of an Era/New Beginning - revealing how Bahamut was defeated and what happened to Louisoix, so it made sense it was a prerendered FMV rather than just a cutscene made using the in game engine (it also clearly fits into the space between where 'End of an Era' finishes, and 'A New Beginning' picks up 'five years later'). Other raids don't have that direct connection to the opening scenes so no FMV endings for completing them (well, maybe Shadowbringers does have a connection with the Crystal Tower I suppose, but that was an old ARR raid and ShB's connection to it just picks up where it left off anyway).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    ^This. In particular, the ARR 'End of an Era/New Beginning/'Flames of Truth' (the Coil ending) trailer apparently alone cost SE Visual Works over $3 million US to produce (of course given how successful ARR has been and continues to be, that cost ended up being made back quickly, thus making it money well spent).
    Do you know what interview this was said in? Was it an interview on Visual Works and the behind the scenes production of the trailer? I'd be interested in reading it, but a cursory Google search yielded no results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoofiaBossVal View Post
    Do you know what interview this was said in? Was it an interview on Visual Works and the behind the scenes production of the trailer? I'd be interested in reading it, but a cursory Google search yielded no results.
    Unfortunately no, I do recall the info came from the old Alpha/Beta tester forum around 2012/2013, and because that forum is long gone (and was restricted access to only testers), I have no record of that alas (which would explain the lack of citation from Google). I'm sorry I couldn't be more help (and, in hindsight, I think I might have to keep that info under "needs citation" for the time being).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    I want to say the please don't do any more of these was said around the time the Devs had released the video for the scene you see after beating T12. So, somewhere around that fan fest Yoshida had said it.
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