Who doesnt want gear restrictions removed?

[Reap00]

I am glad we have a new thread about the same exact topic as another thread that is already on the front page. We really needed this. Beat that horse.

[reivaxe]

I am in favor of MORE race gear! I love that there are certain glams that are unique to your race, racial gear is the game's chance to really play up the aesthetics of a race.

I have nothing against gender locking stuff, cause if they didn't females wouldn't get half the girly shet they do. In all the praise I saw for them making the 2B coffer gear look the same for both genders I noticed no one really thought about male players who don't want to crossplay and was expecting a "cool thing designed for them" that they could wear. I saw it a number of times, people being let down that they won a useless glam prize. That's kinda why gender locking is a thing, so that dudes aren't asked to wear female stuff and female characters can have girly stuff. I'm ok with them having interns or w/e unlock things in the background like they are doing now but I've no problem sucking it up that my female can't always have a dapper glam.

For job gear I'm fine with restrictions but think Ranged and Nin need over-lap. Like ... they kinda fucked up Ranged gear via having all the Ranged jobs want the same stats. What's BIS for one is the same for the other 2 from what I see in most cases so I feel like the jobs could use some tweaking and maybe let Nin wear their gear and let them wear Nin gear. Mainly cause Nin sets look more Dnc than most ranged sets. They could do that OR just make Dnc wear Nin gear instead of ranged. But that's as far as that goes, never really cared for the idea of making Job gear a free-4-all.

Devs also like to reuse past gear designs for different jobs when they can, as filler gear for dngs so it's a means to stretch out resources.

[GrizzlyTank]

I have nothing against gender locking stuff, cause if they didn't females wouldn't get half the girly shet they do. In all the praise I saw for them making the 2B coffer gear look the same for both genders I noticed no one really thought about male players who don't want to crossplay and was expecting a "cool thing designed for them" that they could wear. I saw it a number of times, people being let down that they won a useless glam prize. That's kinda why gender locking is a thing, so that dudes aren't asked to wear female stuff and female characters can have girly stuff. I'm ok with them having interns or w/e unlock things in the background like they are doing now but I've no problem sucking it up that my female can't always have a dapper glam.

Female charcters would still get all the girly shet they got, only that males could also wear it and vice-versa. There have been way to many instances in this game where i have gotten a piece of armor i like and then when i equip it the pants for some obnoxious reason is turned into a skirt. The school outfit is how it should be. Want feminine clothing but playing a male char? No problem. Want masculine clothing but playing a female char? Again no problem.

And funny enough, male characters do in fact get both the male and female versions of the Yohra gear from copied factory, only that the male versions are role and sex locked.

[technole]

YoshiP made a stance years ago that job gear will always be restricted. He mentioned he didn't want people to be confused for things seeing a black mage in tank gear.

Race stuff takes a lot of time, because it's designed for one type of model.

[Reinha]

- letting any race use any of the hempen sets

Now that 2 sets are already being shared they are not race specific, so might as well just share them all at this point. It would be nice to get an additional race specific set.

- letting any job wear any other jobs item of clothing

Job specific gear should stay that way but if it's gear shared by multiple jobs, sometimes as recolors, then there is no reason the rest of jobs couldn't also use the appearance. Same as racial gear.

- no gender locked gear etc etc

I'm not against unlocking everything if it costs nothing, but in reality that's not the case. We don't tend to get a masculine hairstyle/glamour/emote as well as a feminine one at the same time unless they are gender locked. So getting non-locked cosmetics usually means that we get nice looking things only half the time and the overall quality and quantity of cosmetic options goes down. Two dozen short hair styles on female characters despite the constant requests for longer, more elaborate hair styles. Dresses which look really unflattering on the male frame and mostly get worn as a joke. One same emote for everyone instead of multiple variants.

Sometimes they get it right though. The long straight hair style is great example of a truly gender neutral option that looks great on everyone. Many hats, gloves and shoes would also work well for both genders. I would just like them use some common sense with the gender locking and consider how much an item is actually going to be used compared to the development time it takes to implement it.

[GrizzlyTank]

YoshiP made a stance years ago that job gear will always be restricted. He mentioned he didn't want people to be confused for things seeing a black mage in tank gear.

Race stuff takes a lot of time, because it's designed for one type of model.

Except for the fact that you can find both running around completely naked... Totally not confusing.

Also certain that there have been instances of Tank sharing gear with caster.

[technole]

Except for the fact that you can find both running around completely naked... Totally not confusing.

Also certain that there have been instances of Tank sharing gear with caster.

He meant it on a general level, like job, tome and raid gear. There are things like Skallic dungeon gear or even Yorha raid gear which has similar or slight variations because that's the design element.

5.0 had light chain mail tome gear for casters, but it was unique enough that it was still light-weighted gear. He's basically meaning like you shouldn't see things like an Astro hat or say the Eden's Gate healer robe on a tank, or a black mage wearing say heavier armor like a Dragoon or tank.

[tdb]

From what I understand of ARR's messy coding it's actually impossible to change what jobs can equip gear. That's why they had to make a replica set for the sky pirates stuff so they could make it equippable by everyone.

This seems doubtful, since they've been able to add AST, MCH, DRK, SAM, RDM, DNC and GNB to all existing role-appropriate gear. It can't be based on just role either, since there's no gear which fits all melee dps.

The hempen undergarments set in particular is technically not race-locked gear. Instead it has different appearance depending on the wearer's race. SE would have to split each item into a bunch of different versions, each of which would have a static appearance. And I suspect they would have to create the appearances for the races which currently don't have them.

[SomeRandomHuman]

As nice as it would be to wear other roles' gear, I'd rather they focus on removing genderlocks on existing gear first.

I'd also really love to have hempen sets unlocked. There's ones I love like male au'ra hempen bottoms and male elezen hempen tops but I'm not fond of ether race due to their present problems.

[Novae]

Why devs should listen to these people anyway, they already know that even if they remove glamour restrictions, they would still wear their 2B butt, boots and bikini.
I'm all for restrictions, but we definitly need in between lvl 1 glamours that could be worn by everyone.