Who doesnt want gear restrictions removed?

[Gemina]

I've noticed a weird sentiment in some of these comments and it has me confused.

If someone wants to wear a dress as a male character, I see literally nothing wrong with that. Gender restrictions are quite dumb.

What are you confused about? I look at your statement, and even though I don't agree with it I recognize that it is your opinion. There is nothing to be confused about. However, presumably; if someone has a view in direct contrast to yours, the only reason why I can think it confuses you is because you see any view other than yours as incorrect.

Those are the type of thoughts I have when I respond with things like:
"I think males wearing dresses are dumb, and I see absolutely nothing wrong with gender restrictions."

[SturmChurro]

What are you confused about? I look at your statement, and even though I don't agree with it I recognize that it is your opinion. There is nothing to be confused about. However, presumably; if someone has a view in direct contrast to yours, the only reason why I can think it confuses you is because you see any view other than yours as incorrect.

Those are the type of thoughts I have when I respond with things like:
"I think males wearing dresses are dumb, and I see absolutely nothing wrong with gender restrictions."

I more so question their priorities. They apparently don't have any resources to do anything, but they fit dresses and little panties to males, but they can't fit other gear?

YoshiP made a stance years ago that job gear will always be restricted. He mentioned he didn't want people to be confused for things seeing a black mage in tank gear.

Race stuff takes a lot of time, because it's designed for one type of model.

I know recently he was talking about not wanting axes on black mage.. for some reason, but gear itself? That ship has sailed... a looong time ago. There are tons of outfit pieces in the game to ruin people's class fantasy.

[MilkieTea]

What are you confused about? I look at your statement, and even though I don't agree with it I recognize that it is your opinion. There is nothing to be confused about. However, presumably; if someone has a view in direct contrast to yours, the only reason why I can think it confuses you is because you see any view other than yours as incorrect.

Those are the type of thoughts I have when I respond with things like:
"I think males wearing dresses are dumb, and I see absolutely nothing wrong with gender restrictions."

Not incorrect, but literally confusing. If a male wearing a dress is dumb to you, why? That goes deeper than me not caring what men wear. It quite LITERALLY confuses me, because there's a deeper conflict in that sentiment. There's a why there.

As for why I think men can wear dresses, men can wear whatever we want. If I want to wear a suit and tie, I'll wear a suit and tie. If I want to wear a pretty maxi dress and heels, I'll wear a pretty maxi dress and heels. Seeing nothing wrong or "dumb" about men wearing dresses is a pretty straightforward reasoning, whereas seeing something dumb with it has deeper sentiments. There's more beyond "I think it's dumb." Okay... why?

For future reference, when I say something I tend to mean it as a literal sentiment. This way you don't need to worry about me meaning something else

[Gemina]

Not incorrect, but literally confusing. If a male wearing a dress is dumb to you, why? That goes deeper than me not caring what men wear. It quite LITERALLY confuses me, because there's a deeper conflict in that sentiment. There's a why there.

Like you said, it goes deeper. I can't express the "why" fully because it goes very far out of the scope of the thread. It goes into the eradication of gender norms and roles. It goes into politics. It goes into society being such a washed up version of itself, that video games or anything else that allows/displays a man in a dress denotes virtue signaling. Especially when I know that this dev team previously had views that would stop things like cross gender school uniforms right in its tracks.

I don't care if a man wears a dress, or a male character in a game wears one. I think they look stupid, and are contributing to a much larger problem, but I do respect their choice.

[MilkieTea]

Like you said, it goes deeper. I can't express the "why" fully because it goes very far out of the scope of the thread. It goes into the eradication of gender norms and roles. It goes into politics. It goes into society being such a washed up version of itself, that video games or anything else that allows/displays a man in a dress denotes virtue signaling. Especially when I know that this dev team previously had views that would stop things like cross gender school uniforms right in its tracks.

I don't care if a man wears a dress, or a male character in a game wears one. I think they look stupid, and are contributing to a much larger problem, but I do respect their choice.

I feel like this conversation would be extremely interesting and I wish I could actually talk to you about it at length without entirely derailing the scope of the thread. As much as OP devolved into being rude and out of pocket, I don't want to do the same by derailing the convo entirely, regardless of personal feelings. I will say I think that men wearing dresses actually contributes to the eradication of a bigger problem (one I won't mention because I'd rather not get unfairly called names again), but I'm glad you respect the choice. Thanks for responding, I now kind of understand what you meant, though I think I'll always find the sentiment confusing.

[Gemina]

I feel like this conversation would be extremely interesting and I wish I could actually talk to you about it at length without entirely derailing the scope of the thread. As much as OP devolved into being rude and out of pocket, I don't want to do the same by derailing the convo entirely, regardless of personal feelings. I will say I think that men wearing dresses actually contributes to the eradication of a bigger problem (one I won't mention because I'd rather not get unfairly called names again), but I'm glad you respect the choice. Thanks for responding, I now kind of understand what you meant, though I think I'll always find the sentiment confusing.

I am always open to constructive conversations, and I extend my thanks to you as well for explaining and correcting me on how it confuses you. Even though we can't necessarily engage in an in-depth discussion of topics that pertain outside the game here, hopefully some posters can see how you and I initially disagreed with each other, but by simply listening and trying to understand each other's perspective, the two people engaged can remain amicable. I know I can come off as abrasive, but I am constantly on the defensive here.