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  1. #31
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    Kris Goldenshield
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    I'm for a mix of both:

    1) Keep restrictions on artifact armor. Though I would almost like to NOT see a new job specific sets at all from the next expansion onward.
    2) Any armors that are not in (1) that are restricted to a specific job (eg the Garo tank sets) can be worn for all jobs of the same class (so WAR can wear the PLD set)
    3) For most games, I like clear division of armor classes, with some class identity in your gear..but..well.. FFXIV has frog suits and robes that tanks can wear, so why not. For glamour purposes, sure, allow anything to be glamoured except artifact gear. If that's not an easy thing to do code-wise, I'd say just create some glamour sets like skyrat, but start with heavy armor (like Cuirass/Plate or Aketon/Chain)
    4) ALTERNATIVELY, just do what they've been doing: take dungeon drops from previous expansions and turn them into leveling sets for the next expansion...but for a wider variety of jobs (Eg. Berzerker's Scale Mail was Tank only, High Steel Scale was available for tanks and DRG)

    Though I would say this: Be careful what you wish for. If SE understands this as "Everyone wants to wear what the other jobs can", this could very easily turn into "Ok, let's just make 1 armor set for all the jobs, that way everyone CAN wear what the other jobs have!"

    Re: Hempen sets

    I would like this to be removed somewhat; As a fem highlander, my hempen set is horrible looking for my tastes; I would much rather wear something like the midlander or miqo'te have; possibly even the more elegant looking elezen set... Anything but the pile of strings/bondage gear..
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    Last edited by kaynide; 01-05-2021 at 11:21 AM.

  2. #32
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    C'erise Vanesse
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    I've noticed a weird sentiment in some of these comments and it has me confused.

    If someone wants to wear a dress as a male character, I see literally nothing wrong with that. Gender restrictions are quite dumb.
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    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

  3. #33
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    Alaray's Avatar
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    Vevri Arctyria
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    Balmung
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    The only thing I'm particularly partial to would be letting Artifact Armor remain job-locked. Part of me wouldn't mind the freedom to mix and match, since I love some of the sets but don't play the job, but it's the one area where it's a decision to keep something so intertwined with job-identity that it doesn't bother me.

    For everything else, I'd rather the freedom to mix and match. Even from a realism point of view, the vast majority of the cultures on Eorzea have extended contact/trade/exchange of ideas to where it wouldn't really be that out there to see a sharing of attire/designs/patterns/styles etc... amongst each other. But, even then, from a realism point of view: there's talking dragons in this game, and we can wear jeans and a t-shirt with shades and drive a car.

    That said, I don't think anything should be genderlocked at this point; including hairstyles/makeup options and the like. Ultimately, the locks are arbitrary and it really doesn't matter if [Female Character] wears a traditionally masculine set of attire, or vice-versa.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    I've noticed a weird sentiment in some of these comments and it has me confused.

    If someone wants to wear a dress as a male character, I see literally nothing wrong with that. Gender restrictions are quite dumb.
    "Resources". If they can spend resources to fit dresses to males, they can spend resources to fit other items, such as hempen.
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  5. #35
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    Livia Bloodletter
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    "Resources". If they can spend resources to fit dresses to males, they can spend resources to fit other items, such as hempen.
    And if that costs extra resources, then they have messed up somewhere in how they add things to the game.
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank View Post
    And if that costs extra resources, then they have messed up somewhere in how they add things to the game.
    Agreed, SE apparently can't do anything because they don't have any resources.
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  7. #37
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    I've noticed a weird sentiment in some of these comments and it has me confused.

    If someone wants to wear a dress as a male character, I see literally nothing wrong with that. Gender restrictions are quite dumb.
    What are you confused about? I look at your statement, and even though I don't agree with it I recognize that it is your opinion. There is nothing to be confused about. However, presumably; if someone has a view in direct contrast to yours, the only reason why I can think it confuses you is because you see any view other than yours as incorrect.

    Those are the type of thoughts I have when I respond with things like:
    "I think males wearing dresses are dumb, and I see absolutely nothing wrong with gender restrictions."
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    YoshiP made a stance years ago that job gear will always be restricted. He mentioned he didn't want people to be confused for things seeing a black mage in tank gear.

    Race stuff takes a lot of time, because it's designed for one type of model.


    his word doesn't mean its set in stone and he can change his mind over time
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    What are you confused about? I look at your statement, and even though I don't agree with it I recognize that it is your opinion. There is nothing to be confused about. However, presumably; if someone has a view in direct contrast to yours, the only reason why I can think it confuses you is because you see any view other than yours as incorrect.

    Those are the type of thoughts I have when I respond with things like:
    "I think males wearing dresses are dumb, and I see absolutely nothing wrong with gender restrictions."
    I more so question their priorities. They apparently don't have any resources to do anything, but they fit dresses and little panties to males, but they can't fit other gear?

    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    YoshiP made a stance years ago that job gear will always be restricted. He mentioned he didn't want people to be confused for things seeing a black mage in tank gear.

    Race stuff takes a lot of time, because it's designed for one type of model.
    I know recently he was talking about not wanting axes on black mage.. for some reason, but gear itself? That ship has sailed... a looong time ago. There are tons of outfit pieces in the game to ruin people's class fantasy.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 01-05-2021 at 05:26 PM.
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  10. #40
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    Elise Marie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    What are you confused about? I look at your statement, and even though I don't agree with it I recognize that it is your opinion. There is nothing to be confused about. However, presumably; if someone has a view in direct contrast to yours, the only reason why I can think it confuses you is because you see any view other than yours as incorrect.

    Those are the type of thoughts I have when I respond with things like:
    "I think males wearing dresses are dumb, and I see absolutely nothing wrong with gender restrictions."
    It’s how a large section of the world argues these days. If you don’t agree with them then they imply you must be a bad person.

    Men wearing dresses in game looks very silly and it really impacts immersion in the cities and things. But rather than accept they look stupid, easier to call you an ism or a phobe then retreat to a safe space where everyone agrees with them.
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