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  1. #1
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    vampiregirl663's Avatar
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    Sitara Anwen
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    Siren
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    Summoner Lv 100

    Suggestions for Titan Unreal

    I would like to make some suggestions regarding the Unreal series and specifically Titan. In order to do this effectively, I feel I must briefly describe the type of player I am so you might understand where I'm coming from, however there's a TLDR at the end of the post. I've played XIV since a month after HW released and haven't had a sub lapse since. I would describe myself as a midcore player who has no interest in savage. My passion lies in primals. Basically, I would consider myself a non top tier, run of the mill but very devoted XIV player.
    I have been trying to clear Titan since launch in PF and have found that clear groups struggle with this, especially since you cannot rez someone who falls off. Groups try for a little while, but it's pretty much doomed from the start.
    Thus I would like to offer two ideas for the Unreal series that relate the Titan & the other older extremes that didn't allow resurrections. Since there is a group of XIV players that are from 1.0 or 2.0 & are likely going to tell me to shut my hole & stop crying since that's how it was back in the old days, my first suggestion is to allow a mode or button a player can toggle that allows rezzing or not for those older fights. If you choose to not have rezzing if you fall off, you can get an increase in reward and the satisfaction that you can do the fight as it was back in ye olden days. For those of us in PF that are struggling, it could allow for more success rate & participation in the unreal series.
    My second and more radical suggestion is somewhat like the first. Since every fight in the game now allows for rezzing, even if you fall off a platform, please just change Titan to be in line with the rest of the games in the fight. This is what players have come to expect & it allows groups to have a higher chance of success, even when mistakes are made (we're all humans here and watching your friends have to struggle when you can't help is a form of masochist torture).
    Doing Titan in PF is a lost cause without allowing for rezzing. I implore you to consider players who would like to clear this content and haven't been able to. Some will say the answer is "git gud", but I would point out that there are a fair amount of players who are decent, midcore players that are struggling with this fight simply because they made a mistake in a fight and can't correct it. Just because a fight was done a certain way in the past may not mean it's necessarily good for the future. So please SE...one small change may allow many more players to experience the content devs work so hard to create and feel more success. This leads to a more active and happy community, which is what we all want.

    TLDR: Titan Unreal is hard to clear in PF. Please allow us to either toggle an option to allow rezzing if you fall off for a lesser reward or just have our bodies pop up on the platform after you die like the vast majority of other fights in the game.
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    ItMe's Avatar
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    Iiiiiiiiiiit's Meeeee
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    I actually wish more fights had punishments as brutal as this one. Getting knocked off is a really good personal motivator for me to "git gud."
    Though I also have a 5 person static to fall back on when pugging gets too frustrating, so take this with a grain of salt.
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    Riamara Skye
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    Marilith
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Titan EX is a great fight. I would much rather they keep it in the same state it has been seen launch. I can understand pt finder frustration but I don't think this should be changed.
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    Pepsi Plunge
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    The same whine was there with Shiva Unreal.
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    Pepsis Eorzea-Tagebuch:
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    Van Arn
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    Goblin
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    Samurai Lv 90
    We need fewer raise opportunities, not more. Because so many are now conditioned to ignore mechanics and use someone else’s raise as mitigation.
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    Elise Marie
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    I disagree with the suggestion but do feel your frustration with PF.

    The problem is that this isn’t casual content but it’s marketed as such with the whole faux hollows thing.

    All the old extremes were DF’d at the time and this can be done in party finder but it’s going to be frustrating and more so if you don’t have a clear so you can queue for duty completed ones where generally people have done it and

    But as for changing the fight, I disagree. Its literally a scaled Titan extreme which is what it’s supposed to be.
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Quote Originally Posted by vampiregirl663 View Post
    Some will say the answer is "git gud", but I would point out that there are a fair amount of players who are decent, midcore players that are struggling with this fight simply because they made a mistake in a fight and can't correct it.
    I do this fight in the PF every week. It isn't too difficult to learn to the point where you stop making those kinds of mistakes. Even if someone dies, other players can adjust and make up for the loss. I have cleared once after a dps died pretty early in the fight. It may also be possible to it with only one remaining healer.

    The biggest problem is the quality of players you are able to get in your party without having completed it. Unless you clear within the first day or week, you will almost never be grouped with 7 players who can recover from mistakes and handle mechanics correctly. This may or may not also apply to yourself. Keep practicing and try to reach a point where your runs are flawless even if your teammates aren't. You could also reach out to other players through the fellowship system or various Discord servers, or make a free company event out of it.
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    Last edited by Reinha; 01-02-2021 at 04:10 AM.

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    I thought this thread would take longer to show up... Guess im wrong. GG=git gud #changemymind
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    Liam Harper
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    Quote Originally Posted by vampiregirl663 View Post
    please just change Titan to be in line with the rest of the games in the fight. This is what players have come to expect & it allows groups to have a higher chance of success
    This is one reason I wouldn't want to see it changed. Players have come to expect easy clears because EX has been handing them out so much. The combination of a really low enrage timer and unlimited rezzes means you can carry a few players through who are in no way ready for that type of content.
    Think of it as similar to mechanics that wipe the group if you mess up, like missing an orb on Emerald or dropping a lb3 meteor badly on Seat. In the same way, you can't afford to mess up this mechanic too.

    Quote Originally Posted by vampiregirl663 View Post
    but I would point out that there are a fair amount of players who are decent, midcore players that are struggling with this fight simply because they made a mistake in a fight and can't correct it.
    The hard truth here is those players are not as decent as they thought they were. The leniency of recent content and the lack of any tools to measure performance make it hard to gauge how well you're doing. This is why you have healbots and dps doing half their potential who would swear they're doing well and feel their clears are proof of that.
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    Elja Djt-dvre
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    Titan wasn't called "Statics Destroyer" for nothing. Welcome to the absolute nightmare of the whole "A Realm Reborn" expansion that can be still considered one of the hardest Trials in the entire game.
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